iso14000-digest Wednesday, July 8 1998 Volume 02 : Number 037
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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 19:36:07 -0400
From: rpojasek@sprynet.com
Subject: Re: Regulated Aspects
If the first and most important goal of the ISO 14001 program is to eliminate
(say 10% each year for five years)the aspects (i.e., the prevention of
pollution and continuous improvement), this decision (i.e., selection of
significant aspects) becomes much less dramatic in the scheme of things. At
any rate, a good Pareto diagram constucted with the activity-based, true costs
of the aspect should clearly show you the 20% of the aspects that are
responsible for 80 % of the activity-based costs. This is a sure fire way to
get management attention and to determine significance. Measuring in monetary
terms is essential for having the chance to integrate the ISO 14001 program
into core business programs.
Bob Pojasek
Pojasek & Associates
P.O. Box 1333
E. Arlington, MA 02474-0021
(781) 641-2422 Telephone/FAx
rpojasek@sprynet.com
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/courses/eh270cd
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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 22:49:55
To: iso14000@quality.org
From: "Jup van 't Veld"
Subject: Re: Regulated Aspects
Dear Connie and other listers,
Frankly, I have a problem seeing the problem.
An EMS must address all significant environmental aspects, which may or may
not be (explicitly) regulated. For example, in many countries there is
hardly any regulation on carbon dioxide emissions, which may however be a
dominant aspect in certain industries.
At the same time, an EMS must address all relevant legal requirements,
which may or may not be about environmental aspects. For example, in the
Netherlands there is a legal requirement to consult works councils on
environmental programmes, investment decisions etc. This is very relevant
for the system, but is not an environmental aspect.
So if an activity has a certain environmental aspect which happens to be
regulated, it must be identified either because it is significant or
because regulations require it, or both.
I have tried, but I cannot think of an example where a regulated
environmental aspect would not be identified, yet the certifying body
would not write a non-conformity. So what exactly is the point I am missing?
Jup van 't Veld
TU env. exp.
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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 11:59:29 +0100
From: "RAMETSTEINER EWALD"
Subject: Registration vs. Certification
Dear Colleagues,
I m not quite sure about the correct use of terminology regarding
"registration" and "certification" - whether they are just different
steps in the certification process or whether they are entirely
different in their approaches. Can somebody help me out?
Annother thing, which popped up in the list before, but I couldn t
retrieve it: what was the latest number of total ISO 14.000
certificates issued world-wide? (is there a good source for
information of this kind?)
Thank s for your help,
Ewald Rametsteiner
Ewald Rametsteiner
Institute of Forest Sector Policy and Economics
Universitaet fuer Bodenkultur
Gregor Mendel Str. 33
A-1180 Vienna
Tel.: 0043-1-47 654 4403
Fax: 0043-1-47 654 4407
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Date: Fri, 03 Jul 1998 12:09:24 +0100
From: Matthias Gelber
Subject: Re: Registration vs. Certification
Dear Ewald
Registration and Certification in the context of ISO 14001 are both the
same, the difference is only that the expression registration is used in
North America and certification in Europe for the same activity. It is
both about a third party accredited Certification Body or Registrar
assessing whether the site conforms with the requirements of the ISO
14001 specification and then issuing a certificate or recommending
registration.
Registration in the context of EMAS, however goes a bit further, because
the Competent body (different from the accreditation body or the third
party Registrar / Certifyer) registers a site to EMAS by entering the
site name in the official list of EMAS registered sites.
The best source of getting an overview on ISO 14001 certificates is
Reinhard Peglau
from the German Federal Environmental Agency.
He regularly updates a list and you can write him an Email:
reinhard.peglau@uba.de
Hope this helps
Matthias
RAMETSTEINER EWALD wrote:
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> I m not quite sure about the correct use of terminology regarding
> "registration" and "certification" - whether they are just different
> steps in the certification process or whether they are entirely
> different in their approaches. Can somebody help me out?
>
> Annother thing, which popped up in the list before, but I couldn t
> retrieve it: what was the latest number of total ISO 14.000
> certificates issued world-wide? (is there a good source for
> information of this kind?)
>
> Thank s for your help,
> Ewald Rametsteiner
>
> Ewald Rametsteiner
> Institute of Forest Sector Policy and Economics
> Universitaet fuer Bodenkultur
> Gregor Mendel Str. 33
> A-1180 Vienna
> Tel.: 0043-1-47 654 4403
> Fax: 0043-1-47 654 4407
- --
Matthias Gelber
14000 & ONE Solutions
PO BOX 1005
Stoke-on-Trent UK
ST4 2XY
Phone: +44 70000 14000
Fax: +44 70000 14001
Alternative Fax and Voicemail: +44 171 6917249
Email: mgelber@ibm.net
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Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 16:26:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bill Casti (System Admin)"
Subject: Non-member submission from [Ecotox9@aol.com] (fwd)
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Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 07:45:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ecotox9@aol.com
To: iso14000@cyberq.quality.org
Subject: impact matrix from dig#36
Hello, I am Grazyna Momot, ISO 14001/ environmental consultant from Poland.
I just read the shortest digest that was send to my e-mail adress, #36.
I can understand the significance as H, M, L. and category of an impact i
nthis case H2SO4 spill. But: what is A B C D ?
Was the message explanation in digest not complete ? Please, let me know
Grazyna Momot
e-mail: ecotox9@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 14:57:55 -0400
From: Michael Snider
Subject: Aspects
There have been so many interesting comments that I don't know which ones to address first, so I'll content myself with relating a brief anecdote:
I was a member of a team conducting an ISO14K gap analysis at a major facility. This site had a host of processes and activities subject to substantial regulation, as well as a number of voluntarily assumed environmental initiatives. Trace amounts of a
substance from one of this facility's processes were detected near a downstream water supply. The amount was truly negligible, and in fact, the amount released was within regulatory limits. However, the timig of the news and the way it was handled in th
e newspapers resulted in a number of managers rushing to the facility on December 25th in order to conduct damage control.
I think the executives of this company that had to leave their families on Christmas morning would consider that their EMS had let them down. Identification of significant aspects is a real opportunity for a business to get everyone on the same page. Id
entifying all regulated activity as significant creates loud background noise that will mask those few things that really need tremendous focus. In this case, it would have been especially ineffective, since compliance with the regulations implied that
everything was okay.
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 23:25:39 +0200
From: Lennart Piper
Subject: Regulated Aspects
Connie, it is interesting that you are opening a discussion about
environmental aspects.
I can agree to the responses that regulated aspects are not in all cases
significant aspects, but I do believe that the main part of regulated
aspects is significant aspects. I think the basic problem is that there is
a lack of internationally agreed principles and guidance for how to assess
environmental information to decide if an environmental aspect is
significant or not.
Sweden suggested at the ISO/TC 207 SC4-meeting in San Francisco to start a
new work item for Environmental Performance Assessment (EPA) that is
supposed to give principles and guidance for how to handle environmental
aspects. ISO/DIS 14031 - Environmental Performance Evaluation (EPE) does
not give enough detailed guidance in chapter 4.2.3 - Assessing information.
Unfortunately the SC4-meeting turned this down.
ISO/DIS 14031 has an excellent model for how to categories and select
environmental performance indicators that can be used to find environmental
aspects. But I believe that the title for ISO/TC 14031 Environmental
Performance Evaluation can mislead the reader due to poor guidance in 4.2.3
- - Assessing information. The word evaluation is used in a very general way
in ISO/DIS 14031 and it is hard to find guidance on how to assess
environmental information. Therefore I think that organisations need more
guidance in the area of how to assess environmental information, especially
on how to assess environmental information to decide if an environmental
aspect is significant or not.
For information you can download a PowerPoint97 file on the topic from
www.lennart.piper.net/epa.ppt
.
Best Regards,
Lennart Piper
Swedish Industry Association
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Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 02:29:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bill Casti (System Admin)"
Subject: Non-member submission from [Lennart Piper ] (fwd)
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 05:17:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lennart Piper
To: "'iso14000@quality.org'"
Subject: Regulated Aspects
Connie, it is interesting that you are opening a discussion about
environmental aspects.
I can agree to the responses that regulated aspects are not in all cases
significant aspects, but I do believe that the main part of regulated
aspects is significant aspects. I think the basic problem is that there is
a lack of internationally agreed principles and guidance for how to assess
environmental information to decide if an environmental aspect is
significant or not.
Sweden suggested at the ISO/TC 207 SC4-meeting in San Francisco to start a
new work item for Environmental Performance Assessment (EPA) that is
supposed to give principles and guidance for how to handle environmental
aspects. ISO/DIS 14031 - Environmental Performance Evaluation (EPE) does
not give enough detailed guidance in chapter 4.2.3 - Assessing information.
Unfortunately the SC4-meeting turned this down.
ISO/DIS 14031 has an excellent model for how to categories and select
environmental performance indicators that can be used to find environmental
aspects. But I believe that the title for ISO/TC 14031 Environmental
Performance Evaluation can mislead the reader due to poor guidance in 4.2.3
- - Assessing information. The word evaluation is used in a very general way
in ISO/DIS 14031 and it is hard to find guidance on how to assess
environmental information. Therefore I think that organisations need more
guidance in the area of how to assess environmental information, especially
on how to assess environmental information to decide if an environmental
aspect is significant or not.
For information you can download a PowerPoint97 file on the topic from
www.lennart.piper.net/epa.ppt
.
Best Regards,
Lennart Piper
Swedish Industry Association
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Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 02:33:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bill Casti (System Admin)"
Subject: Non-member submission from [Ordoñez Monteagudo, Fernando , ] (fwd)
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 07:50:08 -0400 (EDT)
From:
To: "'iso14000@quality.org'"
Subject: Environmental Risks Assessment
Dear friends:
I've recently heard about a general methodology recommended and freely
showed/(distributed?) by US EPA, regarding to environmental risk
assessment, which could fit ISO14001 requirements for identifying
potential accidents and emergency situations.
Could someone of you drive me in the right direction?
Thank you very much,
=====================
Fernando Ordoñez
Environmental Office
Sevillana de Electricidad
SEVILLE, SPAIN
Tel +34 (5) 441 7311 Ext. 11135
Fax + 34 (5) 441 2128
e -mail: EYPFOM@sevillana.grupoendesa.com
web: http:\\www.sevillanelec.es
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Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 02:34:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bill Casti (System Admin)"
Subject: Non-member submission from [Robert Babione ] (fwd)
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:03:04 -0400 (EDT)
To: envcee-l@rec.org, envbus-l@rec.org, iso14000@quality.org
From: Robert Babione
Subject: QA and EMS Registration/Certification for Electric Utilities
I am looking for information on the current status of quality assurance
system and environmental management system certification or registration
(such as ISO 9000 and ISO 14000) of electric utility organizations. I am
particularily interested in this situation with nuclear utilities, but
would also welcome information on all types of electric generation sources.
Thanks in advance for any information that can be provided.
**********************************************************************
Robert A. Babione, P.E. Phone: + 208 529 1000
SCIENTECH, Inc. FAX: + 208 524 9282
440 West Broadway E-mail: rbabione@scientech.com
Idaho Falls, Idaho 83402
USA
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:22:16 GMT-0300
From: "Macarena Ortega"
Subject: Re: Non-member submission from ["Aleksander Mortensen" Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 01:08:43 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Bill Casti (System Admin)"
> To: iso14000@quality.org
> Subject: Non-member submission from ["Aleksander Mortensen" ] (fwd)
>
>
> NOTE: Respond *both* to the poster's address (see BELOW line reading
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>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:22:59 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Aleksander Mortensen"
> To:
> Subject: IEM exams - We need your comments!
>
> Dear Subscribers,
>
> I am writing to the list on behalf of my fellow graduates of the BSc(hons)
> Environmental Management course at the University of Dundee, Scotland.
>
> We are collectively sitting the Institute of Environmental Management
> Associate Membership Exams, an open book exam over two weeks. We have been
> encouraged to seek professional advice.
>
> We would appreciate your comments to the following exam questions;
>
> 1. An environmentalist recently told the Institute that "most environmental
> management systems are designed to ensure compliance and reduce pollution
> from operations, but do little to make an organisation as a whole more
> sustainable". What would be your response to this challenge?
>
> 2. A growing number of organisations are developing and implementing "green
> commuter plans". What type of initiatives would you expect such a plan to
> include?
>
> 3. You have identified a number of environmental impacts generated by your
> organisation's activities. How would you go about evaluating which of these
> were significant?
>
> 4. Eco-efficiency means doing more with less and minimising life cycle
> environmental impacts. How would you go about evaluating options for
> improving the eco-efficiency of your product or service?
>
> 8. You have been asked to systematically check that all special wastes have
> been properly identified. Explain the methodology you would use to undertake
> such an assessment.
>
> These are 5 of the 10 questions set for the june 1998 assessment. We would
> really appreciate any comments you might have as experienced environmental
> managers. Please note that the questions are primarily related to the UK.
>
> Looking forward to your comments.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> The Class of '94
> BSc(Hons) Environmental Management
> School of Town and Regional Planning
> University of Dundee
>
> E-mail: aleksander@aleksander.com
> -----------------------------------
> Hilsen / Kind Regards,
> -
> Aleksander Mortensen
> University of Dundee
> -
> E-mail: aleksander@aleksander.com
> Web: http://home.sol.no/~siljam/
>
Alexander:
maybe you should ask directly and not ask for comments when
it's clearly seems that you need help with your homework. I have a
lot of work to do, so please ask or comment more concrete things.
Thank you for understanding.
********************************
Macarena Ortega
Fundacion Chile
Marine Resources Department
phone: +56 2 2400503
fax: +56 2 2419389
e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:15:30 GMT-0300
From: "Macarena Ortega"
Subject: (Fwd) Re: Bridging doc.
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From: Self
To: "Van Neerven Advies"
Subject: Re: Bridging doc.
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:07:16 GMT-0300
> From: "Van Neerven Advies"
> To: "Paulo Dantas" ,
> Subject: Re: Bridging doc.
> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 10:59:38 +0200
> Yesterday, I was browsing at the ISO-site (http://www.iso.ch).
> There I was supprised to see that a comittee (TC 207 Environmental
> management) was working on a bridging document for the interpretation of
> ISO 14001 for foresty organisations.The link to this ISO-document:
> http://www.iso.ch/cate/6502001.html
>
> ISO gives as contact:
> Attn: Mr. A. Husseini
> Address:
> Canadian Standards Association
> 178, Rexdale Blvd
> Etobicoke, ON M9W 1R3
> Canada
> E-mail: husseina@csa.ca
>
> I hope this is of any use.
> Greetings,
>
> Harro van Neerven
>
> Van Neerven Consultancy
> Reigerborch 19
> 5247 TD Rosmalen
> The Netherlands
> ..31 73 5211838
> ..31 06 51653828
> ----------
> > Van: Paulo Dantas
> > Aan: ISO14000@quality.org
> > Onderwerp: Bridging doc.
> > Datum: woensdag 17 juni 1998 15:01
> >
> > Good morning to all,
> >
> > I am attending a MA in Env. Management at the UCE/ Birmingham/UK and
> > my dissertation is related with the implementation of EMS/ISO 14000 by
> > forestry companies, more especifically with the stages of
> > identification/evaluation of env. aspects/impacts. I would like to get
> > as much information as possible about this issue, such as sites that I
> > could get informations from, perhaps some company's experience that
> > Icould use as a case study, examples of mat. models, any information at
> > all is welcomed (not necessarily in the forestry area).
> > Also, does anyone have information about the bridging doc. to assist
> > forestry organizations in the use of ISO 14001/14004? I know that
> > TC207/WG2 have been working on this informative reference for some time,
> > but I haven't been able to find a updated information on it
> >
> > Tks very much,
> >
> > Paulo Dantas/University of Central England/Birmingham/UK
> >
> > ______________________________________________________
> > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
Dear Paulo:
Here in Chile we have two forest companies ISO 14001 certified. One
is called Forestal e Industrial Santa Fe and the other is Forestal y
Agrícola Monte Aguila. Both are from Santa Fe Group. You can contact
Pedro Navarrete from the first company in:
+56 43 511352 Phone
+56 43 512298 Fax
If you need something else, please e-mail me.
I hope this helps.
********************************
Macarena Ortega
Fundacion Chile
Marine Resources Department
phone: +56 2 2400503
fax: +56 2 2419389
e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl
********************************
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:15:41 GMT-0300
From: "Macarena Ortega"
Subject: Acreditation
Dear Friends:
Can a national company implement ISO 14.001 and then the same
company, but in other place not in the same country, certifies
this standard?
Thank you in advance,
Macarena
**************************************************
Macarena Ortega
e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl
*************************************************
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:15:42 GMT-0300
From: "Macarena Ortega"
Subject: Certification/ecolabeling
Dear friends,
In our working group we discussed about the difference between the
meaning of certification and ecolabelling. I think that
certification is when a third party certifies something related with
a process or a product and it not has necessarily a "visual" lettering
adjunct and a ecolabel necessarily goes with a lettering. What do
you think?
Macarena
********************************
Macarena Ortega
Fundacion Chile
Marine Resources Department
phone: +56 2 2400503
fax: +56 2 2419389
e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl
********************************
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:08:02 GMT-0300
From: "Macarena Ortega"
Subject: Acreditation
Dear Friends:
Can a national company implement ISO 14.001 and then the same
company, but in other place not in the same country, certifies
this standard?
Thank you in advance,
Macarena
**************************************************
Macarena Ortega
e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl
*************************************************
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:08:23 GMT-0300
From: "Macarena Ortega"
Subject: Certification/ecolabeling
Dear friends,
In our working group we discussed about the difference between the
meaning of certification and ecolabelling. I think that
certification is when a third party certifies something related with
a process or a product and it not has necessarily a "visual" lettering
adjunct and a ecolabel necessarily goes with a lettering. What do
you think?
Macarena
********************************
Macarena Ortega
Fundacion Chile
Marine Resources Department
phone: +56 2 2400503
fax: +56 2 2419389
e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl
********************************
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:08:58 GMT-0300
From: "Macarena Ortega"
Subject: (Fwd) Re: Bridging doc.
- ------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
From: Self
To: "Van Neerven Advies"
Subject: Re: Bridging doc.
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:07:16 GMT-0300
> From: "Van Neerven Advies"
> To: "Paulo Dantas" ,
> Subject: Re: Bridging doc.
> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 10:59:38 +0200
> Yesterday, I was browsing at the ISO-site (http://www.iso.ch).
> There I was supprised to see that a comittee (TC 207 Environmental
> management) was working on a bridging document for the interpretation of
> ISO 14001 for foresty organisations.The link to this ISO-document:
> http://www.iso.ch/cate/6502001.html
>
> ISO gives as contact:
> Attn: Mr. A. Husseini
> Address:
> Canadian Standards Association
> 178, Rexdale Blvd
> Etobicoke, ON M9W 1R3
> Canada
> E-mail: husseina@csa.ca
>
> I hope this is of any use.
> Greetings,
>
> Harro van Neerven
>
> Van Neerven Consultancy
> Reigerborch 19
> 5247 TD Rosmalen
> The Netherlands
> ..31 73 5211838
> ..31 06 51653828
> ----------
> > Van: Paulo Dantas
> > Aan: ISO14000@quality.org
> > Onderwerp: Bridging doc.
> > Datum: woensdag 17 juni 1998 15:01
> >
> > Good morning to all,
> >
> > I am attending a MA in Env. Management at the UCE/ Birmingham/UK and
> > my dissertation is related with the implementation of EMS/ISO 14000 by
> > forestry companies, more especifically with the stages of
> > identification/evaluation of env. aspects/impacts. I would like to get
> > as much information as possible about this issue, such as sites that I
> > could get informations from, perhaps some company's experience that
> > Icould use as a case study, examples of mat. models, any information at
> > all is welcomed (not necessarily in the forestry area).
> > Also, does anyone have information about the bridging doc. to assist
> > forestry organizations in the use of ISO 14001/14004? I know that
> > TC207/WG2 have been working on this informative reference for some time,
> > but I haven't been able to find a updated information on it
> >
> > Tks very much,
> >
> > Paulo Dantas/University of Central England/Birmingham/UK
> >
> > ______________________________________________________
> > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
Dear Paulo:
Here in Chile we have two forest companies ISO 14001 certified. One
is called Forestal e Industrial Santa Fe and the other is Forestal y
Agrícola Monte Aguila. Both are from Santa Fe Group. You can contact
Pedro Navarrete from the first company in:
+56 43 511352 Phone
+56 43 512298 Fax
If you need something else, please e-mail me.
I hope this helps.
********************************
Macarena Ortega
Fundacion Chile
Marine Resources Department
phone: +56 2 2400503
fax: +56 2 2419389
e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl
********************************
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:16:01 GMT-0300
From: "Macarena Ortega"
Subject: 2nd call for Acreditation
From: Self
To: iso14000@quality.org
Subject: Acreditation
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:52:42 GMT-0300
Dear Friends:
Can a national company implement ISO 14.001 and then the same
company, the international firm, certifies this standard?
Thank you in advance,
Macarena
********************************
Macarena Ortega
Fundacion Chile
Marine Resources Department
phone: +56 2 2400503
fax: +56 2 2419389
e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl
********************************
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:16:03 GMT-0300
From: "Macarena Ortega"
Subject: (Fwd) Acreditation
- ------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
From: Self
To: iso14000@quality.org
Subject: Acreditation
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:52:42 GMT-0300
Dear Friends:
Can a national company implement ISO 14.001 and then the same
company, but in other place not in the same country, certifies
this standard?
Thank you in advance,
Macarena
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Macarena Ortega
Fundacion Chile
Marine Resources Department
phone: +56 2 2400503
fax: +56 2 2419389
e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 13:40:52 -0400
From: "Neil G. Vander Linden"
Subject: Certification/ecolabeling -Reply
I can understand the confusion with the difference between certification
and ecolabelling. I guess this terms can only be clear in context. If by
certification you mean having a registrar certify your environmental
management system as being in conformance with ISO14001, then
certification is indeed different from ecolabelling. This type of certification
applies to a management system and not the product. Therfore one
cannot lable the product as being certified. It is possible, however, to
included a statement to the effect that the product was manufactured
under an ISO14001 certified evironmental management system. A similar
situation exists with regard to quality management systems and ISO9001.
When one talks about an ecolable it generally applies to the product and
obviously one would expect to find some sort of identification mark on
the product. Most ecolabelling systems have a set of criteria which must
be met before a product is allowed to bear their symbol. You may hear
terminology which might address certification of the product to use the
label. Examples of these would be Green Seal, White Swan and UL
Listed.
I don't know if the above has answered your question or only confused
you more.
Neil Vander Linden
ngv@westvaco.com
>>> "Macarena Ortega" 07/08/98 11:15am >>>
Dear friends,
In our working group we discussed about the difference between the
meaning of certification and ecolabelling. I think that
certification is when a third party certifies something related with
a process or a product and it not has necessarily a "visual" lettering
adjunct and a ecolabel necessarily goes with a lettering. What do
you think?
Macarena
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Macarena Ortega
Fundacion Chile
Marine Resources Department
phone: +56 2 2400503
fax: +56 2 2419389
e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:15:33 GMT-0300
From: "Macarena Ortega"
Subject: Re: Non-member submission from ["Aleksander Mortensen" Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 01:08:43 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Bill Casti (System Admin)"
> To: iso14000@quality.org
> Subject: Non-member submission from ["Aleksander Mortensen" ] (fwd)
>
>
> NOTE: Respond *both* to the poster's address (see BELOW line reading
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:22:59 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Aleksander Mortensen"
> To:
> Subject: IEM exams - We need your comments!
>
> Dear Subscribers,
>
> I am writing to the list on behalf of my fellow graduates of the BSc(hons)
> Environmental Management course at the University of Dundee, Scotland.
>
> We are collectively sitting the Institute of Environmental Management
> Associate Membership Exams, an open book exam over two weeks. We have been
> encouraged to seek professional advice.
>
> We would appreciate your comments to the following exam questions;
>
> 1. An environmentalist recently told the Institute that "most environmental
> management systems are designed to ensure compliance and reduce pollution
> from operations, but do little to make an organisation as a whole more
> sustainable". What would be your response to this challenge?
>
> 2. A growing number of organisations are developing and implementing "green
> commuter plans". What type of initiatives would you expect such a plan to
> include?
>
> 3. You have identified a number of environmental impacts generated by your
> organisation's activities. How would you go about evaluating which of these
> were significant?
>
> 4. Eco-efficiency means doing more with less and minimising life cycle
> environmental impacts. How would you go about evaluating options for
> improving the eco-efficiency of your product or service?
>
> 8. You have been asked to systematically check that all special wastes have
> been properly identified. Explain the methodology you would use to undertake
> such an assessment.
>
> These are 5 of the 10 questions set for the june 1998 assessment. We would
> really appreciate any comments you might have as experienced environmental
> managers. Please note that the questions are primarily related to the UK.
>
> Looking forward to your comments.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> The Class of '94
> BSc(Hons) Environmental Management
> School of Town and Regional Planning
> University of Dundee
>
> E-mail: aleksander@aleksander.com
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> Hilsen / Kind Regards,
> -
> Aleksander Mortensen
> University of Dundee
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> E-mail: aleksander@aleksander.com
> Web: http://home.sol.no/~siljam/
>
Alexander:
maybe you should ask directly and not ask for comments when
it's clearly seems that you need help with your homework. I have a
lot of work to do, so please ask or comment more concrete things.
Thank you for understanding.
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Macarena Ortega
Fundacion Chile
Marine Resources Department
phone: +56 2 2400503
fax: +56 2 2419389
e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:20:20 EDT
From: Dmhunterjr@aol.com
Subject: Re: (Fwd) Acreditation
If I understand the question correctly, you are seeking information on who is
qualified to do an audit. The Guidelines for environmental auiditing-general
principles, ISO 14010 answers that question at paragraph 4.2 which states in
applicable part--"In order to ensure the objectivity of the audit process and
its findings and any conclusions, the members of the audit team should be
independent of the activities they audit. They should be objective, and free
from bias and [sic] conflict of interest throughout the process.
The use of external or internal audit team members is at the discretion of the
client. An audit-team member chosen from within the organization should not
be accountable to those directly responsible for the subject matter being
audited."
Dennis M. Hunter, Jr., The Derado Group.
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:01:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bill Casti (System Admin)"
Subject: Non-member submission from [Fran Martin ] (fwd)
NOTE: Respond *both* to the poster's address (see BELOW line reading
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- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 10:07:29 -0400 (EDT)
To: iso14000-digest@quality.org
From: Fran Martin
Subject: Expanded MSDS CD-ROM DAtabase
List members responsible for worker safety and hazardous materials reporting
may find a three CD-ROM set of more than 225,000 Material Safety Data Sheets
(MSDSs) for trade and generic chemicals a useful reference tool.
See http://www.env-sol.com/solutions/MSDS.HTML
Fran Martin
FM Research & Consulting
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