iso14000-digest Saturday, July 18 1998 Volume 02 : Number 038 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:33:12 GMT-0300 From: "Macarena Ortega"Subject: Sorry..... Dear Friends: I have had a lot of problems with my mail server, so it's probable that you will receive a lot of mails, forwards and replys in the next few days. So please forgive me, network configuration is not my cup of tea. Thank you Macarena. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 15:43:21 -0400 From: rob Subject: Resources for ISO 14000 Implementation Hello, I'm currently looking for information on the typical resource requirements necessary for the implementation of ISO 14000 within an organization. I realize that this will vary widely from organization to organization, but a starting point would be extremely helpful for the task that I have at hand. If any list members have a suggested source for information regarding man-hours, dollar costs etc. I'd greatly appreciate it. Many thanks Robert Robert Ganzhorn Director of Marketing and Sales GreenWare Environmental Systems Inc (http://www.greenware.ca) Specialists in environmental management information systems 145 King Street East, Suite 200, Toronto, Ontario Canada M5C 2Y8 tel: (416)363-5450; fax: (416)367-2653; email: rob@greenware.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:51:23 GMT-0300 From: "Macarena Ortega" Subject: Re: Certification/ecolabeling -Reply Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 13:40:52 -0400 From: "Neil G. Vander Linden" To: mortega@fundch.cl, iso14000@quality.org Subject: Certification/ecolabeling -Reply I can understand the confusion with the difference between certification and ecolabelling. I guess this terms can only be clear in context. If by certification you mean having a registrar certify your environmental management system as being in conformance with ISO14001, then certification is indeed different from ecolabelling. This type of certification applies to a management system and not the product. Therfore one cannot lable the product as being certified. It is possible, however, to included a statement to the effect that the product was manufactured under an ISO14001 certified evironmental management system. A similar situation exists with regard to quality management systems and ISO9001. When one talks about an ecolable it generally applies to the product and obviously one would expect to find some sort of identification mark on the product. Most ecolabelling systems have a set of criteria which must be met before a product is allowed to bear their symbol. You may hear terminology which might address certification of the product to use the label. Examples of these would be Green Seal, White Swan and UL Listed. I don't know if the above has answered your question or only confused you more. Neil Vander Linden ngv@westvaco.com Neil, thank you for your reply. I agree with you, but my problem is with the meaning of certification. You can certifie that a product has been made without using pesticides or is made with x% of recicled paper. In these cases, the term used is certification or ecolabelling? Macarena ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:04:25 GMT-0300 From: "Macarena Ortega" Subject: Re: (Fwd) Acreditation From: Dmhunterjr@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:20:20 EDT To: mortega@fundch.cl, iso14000@quality.org Subject: Re: (Fwd) Acreditation If I understand the question correctly, you are seeking information on who is qualified to do an audit. The Guidelines for environmental auiditing-general principles, ISO 14010 answers that question at paragraph 4.2 which states in applicable part--"In order to ensure the objectivity of the audit process and its findings and any conclusions, the members of the audit team should be independent of the activities they audit. They should be objective, and free from bias and [sic] conflict of interest throughout the process. The use of external or internal audit team members is at the discretion of the client. An audit-team member chosen from within the organization should not be accountable to those directly responsible for the subject matter being audited." Dennis M. Hunter, Jr., The Derado Group. Dennis, do you think that is correct then that a subsidiary (sorry if the word is bad written) of a transnational company can implement ISO 14000 and then the transnational certified the standard? What happen then with ethics? Macarena ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 22:35:59 +0200 From: "Pepper, John" Subject: RE: Acreditation Dear Macarena I assume you are talking about accredited certification. This situation would be highly unusual. The only type of example I can think of would be if a large holding company had within its group of companies one (or more) accredited certification body. In such a case, the "structure of the certification body should be such as to prevent its owners or the controlling body influencing certification" (EAC/G5 European Accreditation of Certification - Guidelines for the Accreditation of Certification Bodies for EMS refers). It is therefore possible that an accredited certification body could issue an ISO 14001 certificate for another business unit or function (for example a consultancy) within the same organisation. However, I would not particularly recommend this route, because of potential public concerns on impartiality. PS Please can you take a little more care with your postings - I received this message several times! John Pepper Lead EMS Auditor Det Norske Veritas Quality Assurance Ltd Palace House 3 Cathedral Street London SE1 9DE United Kingdom Tel + 44 (0) 171 357 6080 (Main Switchboard) (E-mail) john.pepper@dnv.com - -----Original Message----- From: Macarena Ortega [SMTP:mortega@fundch.cl] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 1998 12:16 PM To: iso14000@quality.org Subject: Acreditation Dear Friends: Can a national company implement ISO 14.001 and then the same company, but in other place not in the same country, certifies this standard? Thank you in advance, Macarena ************************************************** Macarena Ortega e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl ************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:58:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bill Casti (System Admin)" Subject: re: Paid Advertising Notice: Online Quality Resources at QUALITY.ORG now has a separate section, linked from the homepage, for QA/QC-related paid classified advertising for products, services and businesses-for-sale. You can reach the area through http://www.quality.org/classads We will continue to support FREE links to Quality-related businesses and service, just as we have all along. BUT, if you want to advertise your Quality-related services and products or sell your Quality-related business, we now have a low-cost ($25/month) place for you to do it. We have decided to offer this service, so you don't have to annoy everyone on your email discussion list by posting your ads there (which we frown on and which *could* get you barred from the QUALITY.ORG system). Of course, right now, I'm guilty of doing that, too (which I'm certain way too many of you will email me about), but since I've been giving you everything for free for years, I grant myself a waiver now and then. :) If you're interested in advertising online at Online Quality Resources, contact me. If you're just interested in flaming me, save your energy and time; flames get immediately redirected to /dev/null. Regards. Bill ============================================================================= Bill Casti, CQA Email: help@quality.org Domain Owner, QUALITY.ORG Pager: +1 800 604 6149 President, Associated Quality Consultants, Inc. Fax: +1 703 834 8209 - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit our Online Quality Resources Website and Bookstore at http://www.quality.org ============================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:14:05 EDT From: Dmhunterjr@aol.com Subject: Re: Acreditation My understanding of the situation is a little different than what you have posed, my understanding is that the certification was received based on a second party audit from the parent on a subsidiary neither of which are accreditation authorities nor registrars. Be that as it may, first, I doubt that Chile recognizes the European accreditation body you mention. Second, even if they did have their own accrediation body and registrars there is nothing to prevent an organization from self-declaring compliance with ISO 14000. It simply lacks the credibility of a certification received from an accredited registrar. Dennis Hunter. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:47:03 -0400 From: "Steve Ruddell" Subject: Re: Certification/ecolabeling Macarena, Are you asking the difference between ecolabeling as is currently being developed through ISO 14000, and certification of resource sustainability (a resource label as opposed to an ecolabel) that is provided by a label through an organization such as the Forest Stewardship Council? Or are you asking about the term certification as it refers to being registered to ISO 14001? The guideline standards for ecolabels (type I, II, and III) are being worked on. These are ISO 14020 - ISO 14025. Also, there are about 25 private and government ecolabeling programs in developed countries that are separate from a predate the ISO guidelines. This stuff can be confusing. Steve Ruddell Michigan State University Department of Forestry 126 Natural Resources Building East Lansing, MI 48824 (616) 866-0073 (home) (517) 355-0091 (office) (517) 432-1143 (FAX) - ---------- > From: Macarena Ortega > To: iso14000@quality.org > Subject: Certification/ecolabeling > Date: Wednesday, July 08, 1998 7:15 AM > > Dear friends, > > In our working group we discussed about the difference between the > meaning of certification and ecolabelling. I think that > certification is when a third party certifies something related with > a process or a product and it not has necessarily a "visual" lettering > adjunct and a ecolabel necessarily goes with a lettering. What do > you think? > > Macarena > > ******************************** > Macarena Ortega > Fundacion Chile > Marine Resources Department > phone: +56 2 2400503 > fax: +56 2 2419389 > e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl > ******************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:15:16 -0400 From: "Robert Clifford, Jr." Subject: re: Resources for ISO 14000 Implementation In a recent article by Joe Cascio and Greg Hale, they provided the estimates which seem to ring true in my experience -- notes in parentheses are my own. Cost for implementation: $20,000 for 20 or fewer employees to $250,000 for more than 500 employees - 50 to 90% of these costs being internal (you could also make a rule-of-thumb and express these costs as $500-1,000 per employee). Time for implementation: one workday per employee (this is probably more accurate for mid-sized or larger organizations). Cascio and Hale point out that these benchmarks are based on limited data. And the problem in gathering this data may continue to be the fact that many organizations, unless they contract to the military or the government, don't effectively track time / project or task. In addition, they may not be able to evaluate a return on their investment in ISO 14001 because they don't effectively accrue environmental costs as separate from general business overhead. Robert Clifford, Jr., Vice President ISO Environmental Consultancy, Inc. 1103 Glenwood Blvd. Schenectady NY 12308-2503 518-393-3392 clifford@quality.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 11:55:57 GMT-0300 From: "Macarena Ortega" Subject: Re: Certification/ecolabeling > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:25:39 -0100 > From: Galli Miklos > Subject: Re: Certification/ecolabeling > To: Macarena Ortega , iso14000@quality.org > Priority: normal > Could you please avoid sending the same mail 2-3 times to the list?! > > Thanks in advance! > > Galli Miklos > Mr. Miklos, I'm terribly sorry for that. My network configuration was wrong and suddenly all my messages were sent more than 3 times. This will not happen again. Thank you ************************************************** Macarena Ortega e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl ************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 23:28:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bill Casti (System Admin)" Subject: How to join or leave QUALITY.ORG lists Please SAVE THIS MESSAGE for your future reference! Here's the self-service instructions on how to handle your subscription(s) for QUALITY.ORG lists.... - ------ We use an automated list management software tool called "Majordomo" here, so all subscribe/unsubscribe messages must be directed to that tool's address. Please follow the instructions below. Please SAVE THIS FILE for future reference, too. The file of all the lists supported at QUALITY.ORG is available at: http://www.quality.org/lists/lists_at_quality.org.html You can use our Web-based MajorCool tool to subscribe/unsubscribe for any of the lists supported at QUALITY.ORG. It is located at: http://www.quality.org/cgi-bin/majordomo OR, you can use email by following the directions below: To Subscribe or Unsubscribe - --------------------------- The ONLY address to send your subscription or unsubscription requests to is: majordomo@quality.org (Do NOT send them to the List's posting address!) The only correct subscribe syntax is: subscribe LISTNAME Example: subscribe mil-qual-d "Majordomo" will respond with instructions and an authentication code which you must return TO: MAJORDOMO@QUALITY.ORG within 48 hours, in order for your subscription request to be fulfilled. If you do not return the authentication, your request will be deleted after 48 hours. We employ this authentication method as a security tool, to assure that those requesting subscriptions are, in fact, the intended recipients of those subscriptions. Once your subscription has been completed, Majordomo will send you an information file about the list you've joined. It will also instruct you on how to leave the list, so you should SAVE IT for future reference. - ----- The only correct unsubscribe syntax is: unsubscribe LISTNAME Example: unsubscribe mil-qual-d * Do NOT include your first and last names or email address when unsubscribing. * The unsubscribe request must be sent from the same address that is on the list. In other words, if you are on the list as "abc@def.ghi.jkl", your unsubscribe request must come from there. If that's no longer possible, then your unsubscribe message must instead read: unsubscribe LISTNAME YOUR-OLD@ADDRESS Example: unsubscribe mil-qual-d jblow@beserk.net * To change the address to which your list messages are being sent, you need to UNsubscribe from the list at your OLD address, then rejoin the list at your NEW address, as: unsubscribe LISTNAME YOUR-OLD@ADDRESS subscriber LISTNAME YOUR-NEW@ADDRESS Note that BOTH lines are required to remove your old address and add your new address. Finally, if you have questions or comments, send them to ME, not to the list or to Majordomo. The other list members would only get annoyed and Majordomo can only respond to specific command syntax, so you'd end up getting annoyed. ============================================================================= Bill Casti, CQA Email: help@quality.org - Domain Owner, QUALITY.ORG Pager: +1 800 604 6149 - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- QUALITY RESOURCES ONLINE at: http://www.quality.org ============================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:53:10 -0400 From: "Connie G. Ritzert" Subject: FW: Regulated Avalanche Dear ISO 14000 list members: I received the following message today indicating a previous message of mine had been received in multiples. If this has also happened to other members of the list, I am very sorry. It was certainly not intentional, and I have no knowledge of why this would have happened. If this occurs in the future, I would appreciate someone advising me so that I might investigate the problem with my internet service provider. Connie Glover Ritzert critzert@fyi.net Meredith-EMC - -----Original Message----- From: Gabor Doka [SMTP:doka@logon.ch] Sent: Thursday, July 09, 1998 3:42 PM To: Connie G. Ritzert; telesoft@logon.ch Subject: Regulated Avalanche Since last Saturday I repeatedly recieved DOZENDS of the e-mail below (from the ISO14000 mail list). * PLEASE check your equipment/software to stop this and prevent * further incidences. Thanks a lot Gabor ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:45:44 EDT From: Dmhunterjr@aol.com Subject: Worth a visit I received information about Intel's EHS site from another list. After touring it, I think it will be of interest to folks intersted in ISO 14000 and EMS's. So I forward it to you fyi. www.intel.com/intel/other/ehs/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:24:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bill Casti (System Admin)" Subject: re: posting to ISO14000 list You have to be a subscriber to the list, in order to post a message to it. The subscribe instructions follow. Here's the self-service instructions on how to handle your subscription(s) for QUALITY.ORG lists.... - ------ We use an automated list management software tool called "Majordomo" here, so all subscribe/unsubscribe messages must be directed to that tool's address. Please follow the instructions below. Please SAVE THIS FILE for future reference, too. The file of all the lists supported at QUALITY.ORG is available at: http://www.quality.org/lists/lists_at_quality.org.html You can use our Web-based MajorCool tool to subscribe/unsubscribe for any of the lists supported at QUALITY.ORG. It is located at: http://www.quality.org/cgi-bin/majordomo OR, you can use email by following the directions below: To Subscribe or Unsubscribe - --------------------------- The ONLY address to send your subscription or unsubscription requests to is: majordomo@quality.org (Do NOT send them to the List's posting address!) The only correct subscribe syntax is: subscribe LISTNAME Example: subscribe iso14000 "Majordomo" will respond with instructions and an authentication code which you must return TO: MAJORDOMO@QUALITY.ORG within 48 hours, in order for your subscription request to be fulfilled. If you do not return the authentication, your request will be deleted after 48 hours. We employ this authentication method as a security tool, to assure that those requesting subscriptions are, in fact, the intended recipients of those subscriptions. Once your subscription has been completed, Majordomo will send you an information file about the list you've joined. It will also instruct you on how to leave the list, so you should SAVE IT for future reference. - ----- The only correct unsubscribe syntax is: unsubscribe LISTNAME Example: unsubscribe iso14000 * Do NOT include your first and last names or email address when unsubscribing. * The unsubscribe request must be sent from the same address that is on the list. In other words, if you are on the list as "abc@def.ghi.jkl", your unsubscribe request must come from there. If that's no longer possible, then your unsubscribe message must instead read: unsubscribe LISTNAME YOUR-OLD@ADDRESS Example: unsubscribe iso14000 jblow@beserk.net * To change the address to which your list messages are being sent, you need to UNsubscribe from the list at your OLD address, then rejoin the list at your NEW address, as: unsubscribe LISTNAME YOUR-OLD@ADDRESS subscriber LISTNAME YOUR-NEW@ADDRESS Note that BOTH lines are required to remove your old address and add your new address. Finally, if you have questions or comments, send them to ME, not to the list or to Majordomo. The other list members would only get annoyed and Majordomo can only respond to specific command syntax, so you'd end up getting annoyed. ============================================================================= Bill Casti, CQA Email: help@quality.org - Domain Owner, QUALITY.ORG Pager: +1 800 604 6149 - List Moderator, "TQM in Manufacturing and Service Industries" - Chairman, Electronic Media ASQ Section 0511 (Northern VA) Section Email: E-media@asq0511.org - Internet Security Manager, FEMA (Washington DC) - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- QUALITY RESOURCES ONLINE at: http://www.quality.org ============================================================================= - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 03:41:21 -0400 (EDT) From: owner-iso14000@quality.org To: owner-iso14000@quality.org Subject: BOUNCE iso14000@quality.org: Non-member submission from ["Ross Campbell" ] >From iso14000-owner Mon Jul 13 03:41:17 1998 Received: from goliath.iscorltd.co.za (NewsRoom.IscorLTD.co.za [139.53.1.195]) by cyberq.quality.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05840 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 03:41:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from roosc.hq.iscorltd.co.za ([139.53.37.206]) by goliath.iscorltd.co.za (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 136 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:42:18 +0200 From: "Ross Campbell" To: "iso14000 group" Subject: EM for bulk materials handling Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:41:21 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19980713074218375.AAA295.136@roosc.hq.iscorltd.co.za> Hi I'd appreciate it if anyone in this group could help me out with some ideas, and perhaps case studies from your own experience. What are the most significant environmental impacts likely to be associated with bulk materials handling (handling, transport and storage of large quantities of unpackaged solid materials) ? The following spring to mind: compromised air quality and associated health impacts(related to dust), surface water pollution (related to improper stormwater management), groundwater contamination (depending on chemistry of materials), soil contamination (same as last). Can anyone think of more impacts and/or environmental problem areas, as well as examples from your own experience? Thanks Ross Campbell Environmental Co-ordinator, Iscor Steel, South Africa rossc@hq.iscorltd.co.za +27 12 307 7273 fax +27 12 307 7273 Reqired Legal Disclaimer: The views expressed above are not necessarily those of Iscor Ltd. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:38:06 +0200 From: "Ross Campbell" Subject: EM for bulk materials handling > Hi > > I'd appreciate it if anyone in this group could help me out with some > ideas, and perhaps case studies from your own experience. > > What are the most significant environmental impacts likely to be associated > with bulk materials handling (handling, transport and storage of large > quantities of unpackaged solid materials) ? > > The following spring to mind: compromised air quality and associated health > impacts(related to dust), surface water pollution (related to improper > stormwater management), groundwater contamination (depending on chemistry > of materials), soil contamination (same as last). > > Can anyone think of more impacts and/or environmental problem areas, as > well as examples from your own experience? > > Thanks > > Ross Campbell > Environmental Co-ordinator, Iscor Steel, South Africa > > rossc@hq.iscorltd.co.za > +27 12 307 7273 > fax +27 12 307 7273 > Reqired Legal Disclaimer: > The views expressed above are not necessarily those of Iscor Ltd. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:12:41 GMT-0300 From: "Macarena Ortega" Subject: Re: "Homework" Alexander, I am very sorry for my behaviour with you. Yes you're right in teeling my that your questions were very interesting. I was so angry because a lot of people are using the discussions lists to fight each other, send augly comments and I think that the e-mail lists can't be used to post obsenes messages. That's why I had that response about your mail. Please forgive me for not have sent to you before my apologizes. Thank you very much (we are in winter now in Chile) Macarena. ************************************************** Macarena Ortega e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl ************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:25:06 -0200 (BDT) From: Fabio Enrique Torezan Subject: ISO 14000 in mining Dear subscribers, I'm a brazilian master student in Ecology, conducting research with Environmental Management in Mining. I'm wondering if there is some kind of certification or "green label" specificaly for mining sites. I also wold like to get further information about how many (and who are them) mining companies around the world that had already been certificated with the ISO 14001 standard. Any kind of information would be very usefull for me. Regards, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Mr. Fabio Enrique Torezan Federal University of Sao Carlos rua Miguel Joao, 296 Sao Carlos - SP 13562-180 Brazil e-mail: pfet@iris.ufscar.br xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:13:16 GMT-0300 From: "Macarena Ortega" Subject: Re: ISO 14000 in mining > Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:25:06 -0200 (BDT) > From: Fabio Enrique Torezan > To: ISO14000 List > Subject: ISO 14000 in mining > Dear subscribers, > > I'm a brazilian master student in Ecology, conducting research with > Environmental Management in Mining. I'm wondering if > there is some kind of certification or "green label" specificaly for > mining sites. I also wold like to get further information about how many > (and who are them) mining companies around the world that had already been > certificated with the ISO 14001 standard. > Any kind of information would be very usefull for me. > > Regards, > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Mr. Fabio Enrique Torezan > Federal University of Sao Carlos > rua Miguel Joao, 296 > Sao Carlos - SP > 13562-180 > Brazil > > e-mail: pfet@iris.ufscar.br > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fabio, Here in Chile we have the 2 major mining companies (governmental companies) with EMS in process of implementation (in order to certificate the ISO 14001 standard). They are CODELCO (National Corporation for Copper) and ENAMI (National Mining Company) They both pretend will be certify ISO 14001 in the year 2000. There exists also a lot of chilean mining companies who already are implementing EMS neither, but we haven't yet an ISO 14001 certified company. We are working on it. I hope this can help you. Macarena Ortega ************************************************** Macarena Ortega e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl ************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:33:38 GMT-0300 From: "Macarena Ortega" Subject: (Fwd) Re: ISO in mining - ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:13:40 -0400 From: Joseph.Kelada@hec.ca (Joseph.Kelada) Organization: HEC To: mortega@fundch.cl Subject: Re: ISO in mining Are there mining companies hat have implemented ISO 9000, and/or TQM. I'm interested since I teach TQM. Thank you Joseph N. Kelada ============================================ Macarena Ortega wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:25:06 -0200 (BDT) > > From: Fabio Enrique Torezan > > To: ISO14000 List > > Subject: ISO 14000 in mining > > > Dear subscribers, > > > > I'm a brazilian master student in Ecology, conducting research with > > Environmental Management in Mining. I'm wondering if > > there is some kind of certification or "green label" specificaly for > > mining sites. I also wold like to get further information about how many > > (and who are them) mining companies around the world that had already been > > certificated with the ISO 14001 standard. > > Any kind of information would be very usefull for me. > > > > Regards, > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Mr. Fabio Enrique Torezan > > Federal University of Sao Carlos > > rua Miguel Joao, 296 > > Sao Carlos - SP > > 13562-180 > > Brazil > > > > e-mail: pfet@iris.ufscar.br > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Fabio, > > Here in Chile we have the 2 major mining companies (governmental > companies) with EMS in process of implementation (in order to > certificate the ISO 14001 standard). They are CODELCO (National > Corporation for Copper) and ENAMI (National Mining Company) > They both pretend will be certify ISO 14001 in the year 2000. > > There exists also a lot of chilean mining companies who already are > implementing EMS neither, but we haven't yet an ISO 14001 certified > company. We are working on it. > > I hope this can help you. > > Macarena Ortega > > ************************************************** > Macarena Ortega > e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl > ************************************************* ************************************************** Macarena Ortega e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl ************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 16:39:45 +1000 From: Kay Meadows Subject: Questions for University Macarena I'm afraid I agree with Alexander's comments regarding your question/s. It is not appropriate to clog up people's emails with lots of questions in order to answer your university assignments. If this is the method the University of Dundee suggests it students use to undertake research, I would appreciate you passing on my concern about this. Kay Kay Meadows Australia Email: kmeadows@iaccess.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:39:43 +0100 From: "Aleksander Mortensen" Subject: About "homework" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01BDB1A9.E1ADE020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subscribers, I am sorry to clog up your mailboxes, but I would like to clarify a few = points. It has been brought to my attention that some subscribers to this list = are unhappy with my recent posting where I asked for comments to the = Institute of Environmental Management Associate Membership exams in = June. I posted a selection of questions which appeared relevant to this list = and I recieved some very interesting and helpful comments. It is my = understanding that this list exists in order to exchange knowledge about = environmental management related issues. I was in fact not doing my "homework", but rather researching on behalf = of an entire class of graduates who were undertaking the same = professional exam. We were encouraged to seek advice from practitioners = in fields relevant to each question, a practice that is not unusual in = open-book exams. If I had been asking for help with my assignments and had used the = comments I recieved from the subscribers to this list as my own, this = would have constituted plagiarism, something I, in no uncertain terms = condone. In fact, the University of Dundee operate an extremely strict = policy regarding academic honesty, however they have no problem with = networking in this context. If this kind of activity constitutes a problem, I personally doubt the = efficacy of such a discussion forum. Furthermore, Mr. A.A.Jackson (A.A.Jackson @dundee.ac.uk), the Course = Director for the Bachelor of Science (Hons) Environmental Management = Course at the University of Dundee will, I am sure, gladly support my = views on this issue.=20 Cheers, Aleksander Mortensen. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 15:46:59 -0400 From: "Robert A. Bruce" <113243.3037@compuserve.com> Subject: ISO 14000 and Forest Stewardship Council - ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Robert A. Bruce, 113243,3037 TO: UK Forestry, INTERNET:ukforestry@visfor.globalnet.co.uk DATE: 05/07/98 23:11 RE: Copy of: FSC v's ISO 14000 I am currently researching on the following topics. Part one will focus on the comparative strengths and weaknesses,and/or benefits and problems of "signing on" to the ISO 14000 certification scheme as opposed to the FSC accreditation scheme. (Or vice versa) The second part of my dissertation is to quantify the resource requirements and costs associated with implementing either of the two schemes in a small to medium sized company operating in the forestry or timber industry. I would be most grateful to receive any suggestions or input on these two areas, either personal comments, web sites to visit, people to approach or publications and papers to consult. I can be contacted at Edinburgh University by e-mail or my personal e-mail <113243.3037@compuserve.com> Apologies in advance for any cross postings which may occur. Many thanks Robert A. Bruce ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:15:06 -0400 From: "Malkin, Melissa" Subject: EMS benchmarks used by EPA Office of Compliance? > I recently ran across an "Inside EPA" article from May 1997 that mentioned > that EPA's Office of Enforcement & Compliance Assistance did a set of EMS > benchmarks. Does anyone know the status of those benchmarks -- is OECA or > any other EPA office currently using them? > > Thanks! > Melissa Malkin > > > Melissa Malkin > Research Triangle Institute, Pollution Prevention Program > POB 12194 > Research Triangle Park, NC 27709-2194 > voice: (919) 541-6154 fax (919) 541 7155 > www.rti.org > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:58:07 -0400 From: HY BRAVERMAN Subject: Re: ISO 14000 and Forest Stewardship Council Robert: The part of your dissertation where you must quantify the resource requirements and costs of implementing any EMS scheme, you need to identify the information requirements. You need to certify that the data is accurate, timely and relevant to its goals and targets. Once you have some form of an information architecture, you'll be able to capture data and use it to make the decisions that will benefit the organization. Deopending upon the size of the organization, there are tools you could use. For the small firm a simple spread sheet and word processor should suffice. However, some behemoth companies will need significant IT resources. hy braverman Robert A. Bruce wrote: > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > > From: Robert A. Bruce, 113243,3037 > TO: UK Forestry, INTERNET:ukforestry@visfor.globalnet.co.uk > DATE: 05/07/98 23:11 > > RE: Copy of: FSC v's ISO 14000 > > I am currently researching on the following topics. > > Part one will focus on the comparative strengths and weaknesses,and/or > benefits and problems of "signing on" to the ISO 14000 certification > scheme as opposed to the FSC accreditation scheme. (Or vice versa) > > The second part of my dissertation is to quantify the resource requirements > and costs associated with implementing either of the two schemes in a > small to medium sized company operating in the forestry or timber industry. > > I would be most grateful to receive any suggestions or input on these two > areas, either personal comments, web sites to visit, people to approach or > publications and papers to consult. > > I can be contacted at Edinburgh University by e-mail > > or my personal e-mail > <113243.3037@compuserve.com> > > Apologies in advance for any cross postings which may occur. > > Many thanks > > Robert A. Bruce ------------------------------ End of iso14000-digest V2 #38 *****************************