iso14000-digest Wednesday, January 13 1999 Volume 02 : Number 043
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:12:05 -0500
From: "Richard Dooley"
Subject: Re: Low Hanging Fruit
Jim Vasconcellos wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I do project management and consulting for customers of our quality
> management software. I have been finding that the two largest
> issues have been document management, and Corrective Actions. I
> want to know if you all consider these to be the most important
> issues for organizations setting up a quality/compliance management
> system, or automating one that is in place. Thank you for
> responding to this informal survey.
> =============================================
Jim,
My experience shows that many organizations have disparate
programs addressing environmental issues, but they do not have a
formal system connecting all of the programs. The core (i.e., root
cause) of this problem is that the organizations think the document
management requirements are too strict in most EMS protocols.
You also note that your system is a "quality/compliance
management" system (as opposed to an environmental management
system). That brings up a good point - many organizations are still
primarliy interested in how the "system" is going to help keep them in
(or help them attain) compliance with environmental regulations. It
seems easier (at this time) for the organizations to understand how to
quantify the benefits of a formal EMS in terms of compliance instead
of determining how an EMS will directly affect their bottom line.
However, once they go through the process of integrating
environmental considerations into every aspect of the organization,
they begin to see that the system is more than a "compliance"
system; it slowly becomes a comprehensive EMS.
I'd be interested to see what the consensus is of your survey.....best
of luck!
Rich
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Environmental Management Specialist
SAIC
251 Ridge-McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22903
(804) 984-3562 voice
(804) 984-4075 fax
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:36:28 -0500 (EST)
From: "Bill Casti (System Admin)"
Subject: FYI.....
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:18:04 -0500 (EST)
From: tlamendola
Subject: Environmental Contract Opportunities
Hi all:
For information on federal, state and local environmental contract
opportunities, please visit http://www.ucg.com/govt/tecor.html
Thank you very much.
Sincerely,
Tracy LaMendola, Account Rep
Government Contracting Institute
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:00:14 +0000 (GMT)
From: Gareth Kane
Subject: ISO 14000 and the Offshore Industry
I am currently researching environmental management in the Offshore Industry, in
particular for shipbuilding and the fabrication of offshore structures.
Does anybody have information, examples or opinions on the implementation of
ISO14000 in such heavy industries? If so, I would be very interested in hearing
from them.
Thanks in anticipation,
Gareth Kane
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Engineering Design Centre
University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU
Tel: +44 191 222 5448
Email: gareth.kane@ncl.ac.uk
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:46:56 +0100
From: "Vianna, Sidney"
Subject: RE: ISO 14000 and the Offshore Industry
I have not seen anything yet, in terms of ISO 14000 for shipbuilding
or yard construction, but BP Oil has had it's production operations in
Alaska, recently certified by DNV Certification to ISO 14001 for:
The environmental management associated with the activities associated
with Oil & Gas Exploration and Production, Oil and Gas Refining, and
Chemical Manufacturing
Thanks and regards,
Sidney Vianna
DNV Certification - Long Beach, CA
sidney.vianna@dnv.com
http://www.dnvcert.com
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From: Gareth Kane [SMTP:gareth.kane@newcastle.ac.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 7:00 AM
To: iso14000@quality.org
Subject: ISO 14000 and the Offshore Industry
I am currently researching environmental management in the Offshore
Industry, in
particular for shipbuilding and the fabrication of offshore
structures.
Does anybody have information, examples or opinions on the
implementation of
ISO14000 in such heavy industries? If so, I would be very interested
in hearing
from them.
Thanks in anticipation,
Gareth Kane
_______________________________________________
Engineering Design Centre
University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU
Tel: +44 191 222 5448
Email: gareth.kane@ncl.ac.uk
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:05:50 -0500
From: "Leland A. Taylor"
Subject: Environmental Management Systems
Hello everyone:
I am part of a team in a small company working to formulate an EMS.
We've gotten to the point where we want to disseminate the structure of
the program to the employees on the floor and the question arises as to
how best to word this in language that is clear, devoid of big words, and
makes sense. The questions that need to be addressed are as
follows...What is an EMS? Why have an EMS? What are the benefits of an
EMS? What are employees responsibilities?...Is there a published,
written document somewhere that might fit this scenerio?? In advance, I
thank you for your time and effort.
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:54:27 +0800
From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?0qbNriA=?= =?ISO-8859-1?B??=
Subject: [none]
Hello Leland,
You can find what you want from ISO14000 Infor Center: http://www.iso14000.com
And there is an EMS ARTICLE: "Environmental Management Systems:
An Implementation Guide for Small and Medium-Sized Organizations":
http://www.epa.gov/OWM/wm046200.htm
Best regards,
yaotong from P.R.China
mailto:yaotong@163.net
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 07:53:32 -0500
From: Stan Carson
Subject: ISO 14001 and Airports
I have an airport customer that is interested in ISO 14001 registration. I
would appreciate any information on airports that have become registered or
are implementing ISO 14001. Thanks for your assistance.
Stan Carson
Edison Industrial Systems Center
(419) 534-3705
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 22:50:44 PST
From: "N Z"
Subject: Accreditation, Certification and Consultancy
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
I know that this issue has been discussed not a very long time ago.
Ethically, I gave my full support that these three components should not
conflict each other, in simpler words, one party cannot take all three.
My question would be that what is the next move should I discover that a
certification body is doing consultancy as well as certification
activity...'under different divisions'.
Another question, a consultant becomes accredited...is there such a
thing?
Final, an accreditation body that is not really qualified to accredit
certification body.
Please advise.
Nik Zafri
dibm,bbm,asmiqm,miqa,mmim,mmcni
fellow PendidikNet Malaysia
QHSE Management Systems Assessor
Consultant, Columnist, QHSE Activist
No. 3, Jalan Intan 2/8
Taman Intan
Kluang 86000
Johor Darul Takzim
Malaysia
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:21:31 +0100
From: "Pepper, John"
Subject: RE: Accreditation, Certification and Consultancy
Dear Nik
Can I suggest you try and get hold of a copy of EA Guidelines for the
Accreditation of Certification Bodies for Environmental Management
Systems (Ref: EA-7/02). (www.european-accreditation.org). This lays
out the requirements for certification bodies. Part of your question
revolves around what you mean by a "division". If you mean the
certification body is linked by ownership to a "related body" which
also provides consultancy, this is quite common and is permitted by
these guidelines provided that the certification body can demonstrate
impartiality etc. Certification bodies themselves are not permitted to
offer consultancy.
Yes, a firm that started as a consultancy is totally entitled to set
up a certification body. The same rules however apply. One example is
ERM Certificate and Verification Services.
On the last point - pass. This I imagine would have to be taken up by
industry and government.
Hope this helps
John Pepper
Lead EMS Auditor
DNV QA Ltd
Tel: 0171 357 6080
E-mail john.pepper@dnv.com
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From: N Z [SMTP:nzafri@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 6:51 AM
To: iso14000@quality.org
Subject: Accreditation, Certification and Consultancy
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
I know that this issue has been discussed not a very long time ago.
Ethically, I gave my full support that these three components should
not
conflict each other, in simpler words, one party cannot take all
three.
My question would be that what is the next move should I discover that
a
certification body is doing consultancy as well as certification
activity...'under different divisions'.
Another question, a consultant becomes accredited...is there such a
thing?
Final, an accreditation body that is not really qualified to accredit
certification body.
Please advise.
Nik Zafri
dibm,bbm,asmiqm,miqa,mmim,mmcni
fellow PendidikNet Malaysia
QHSE Management Systems Assessor
Consultant, Columnist, QHSE Activist
No. 3, Jalan Intan 2/8
Taman Intan
Kluang 86000
Johor Darul Takzim
Malaysia
http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/parklands/103/nikzafri.html
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:16:08 -0400
From: Reinaldo Ramirez
Subject: EA-7/2
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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http://www.european-accreditation.org/start.html
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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:05:47 +0100
From: "Pedro Gonçalves"
Subject: Assistance in ISO 14001
Hello all,
Being responsible for the implementation of an ISO 14001 EMS at my company
and as we are willing to get external help, I asked and received several
consultancy companies proposals. They have all basicaly the same price/hour
but they vary (in large extent) in what concerns the amount of time they
propose to help us in the implementation of the EMS. As there are not much
experience in Portugal in the amount of time needed for the implementation
of an EMS I ask you, based in your experience, what do you think would be a
reasonable number of days (1day = 8 hours) in which such a proposal should
be based? I mean: how many work-days (estimate, of course!) would YOU
propose?
My company main characteristics are:
around 100 workers
Electrical cable production
No major environmental problems
ISO 9002 certified (for 5 years)
Any comments welcomed!
Thanks,
Pedro Gonçalves
catarinos@mail.telepac.pt
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 16:33:45 -0000
From: "Matthias Gelber"
Subject: RE: Assistance in ISO 14001
Dear Pedro
Before evaluating how many man days you need from a consultant you should as
well give us some advice on how much comittment and time you want to invest
with your organisation to put the system in place (and make it work and
deliver in the longterm - some people tend to forget that).
Additionally you should ask yourself how the consultant is using his or her
time? Do they use it to coach your people and by that transfer knowledge?
Will they produce loads of documentation (most of it might not required by
the standard)? Will you possibly pay them for using you as test case?? - I
know a couple of companies who fired their consultants after they realised
that the one they were dealing with had not really done the homework on ISO
14001.
Even big reputable consultancies sometimes have sent incompetent
individuals.
Please let us know what are the goals you want to achieve with ISO 14001 and
how much your employees will be envolved?
Having given a presentation at a national Environmental Management
conference two months ago in Lisbon on ISO 14001, I had the following
impression:
There are some open young people in your country with some experience on ISO
14001 who are eager to get more experience without claiming that they know
it all, but on the other hand there are some more established people who did
not seem to have the flexibility to learn about a new standard, such as ISO
14001. I was amazed that one guy from a well established organisation in
Portugal was claiming that only companies with ISO 9000 certificates would
be eligible for EMS funding as they were the only ones able to handle ISO
14001. After protest from the participants there was no satisfactory
explanation given and one was left with the impression that this was only an
attempt to protect markets.
What is your impression?
Sorry for so many questions and my possibly subjective observations.
Regards, Matthias Gelber
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From: owner-iso14000@quality.org [mailto:owner-iso14000@quality.org] On
Behalf Of Pedro Gonçalves
Sent: 30 November 1998 12:06
To: iso14000@quality.org
Subject: Assistance in ISO 14001
Hello all,
Being responsible for the implementation of an ISO 14001 EMS at my company
and as we are willing to get external help, I asked and received several
consultancy companies proposals. They have all basicaly the same price/hour
but they vary (in large extent) in what concerns the amount of time they
propose to help us in the implementation of the EMS. As there are not much
experience in Portugal in the amount of time needed for the implementation
of an EMS I ask you, based in your experience, what do you think would be a
reasonable number of days (1day = 8 hours) in which such a proposal should
be based? I mean: how many work-days (estimate, of course!) would YOU
propose?
My company main characteristics are:
around 100 workers
Electrical cable production
No major environmental problems
ISO 9002 certified (for 5 years)
Any comments welcomed!
Thanks,
Pedro Gonçalves
catarinos@mail.telepac.pt
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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:59:33 +0000
From: Anthony J Lambert
Subject: Re: Assistance in ISO 14001
At 13:05 +0100 30/11/98, Pedro Gonalves wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>Being responsible for the implementation of an ISO 14001 EMS at my company
>and as we are willing to get external help, I asked and received several
>consultancy companies proposals. They have all basicaly the same price/hour
>but they vary (in large extent) in what concerns the amount of time they
>propose to help us in the implementation of the EMS. As there are not much
>experience in Portugal in the amount of time needed for the implementation
>of an EMS I ask you, based in your experience, what do you think would be a
>reasonable number of days (1day = 8 hours) in which such a proposal should
>be based? I mean: how many work-days (estimate, of course!) would YOU
>propose?
>
>My company main characteristics are:
>around 100 workers
>Electrical cable production
>No major environmental problems
>ISO 9002 certified (for 5 years)
To provide some context to my comments first of all, I am an independent
consultant who has helped thirteen companies in the UK and Indonesia
through the process of ISO 14001 development, implementation and
certification. (Obviously, I didn't do the certification itself.)
The number of days that I have spent on each of those thirteen consultancy
contracts has varied from (if my memory is correct) 10 to 45, and if I look
at what has caused the variety, it is:
1. Differences in scale: a large industrial site requires more input (from
both consultant and client) than a small service-type site.
2. Differences in client involvement: if my role has been purely advisory,
then the number of required days has been at the smaller end of the scale;
if my role has been more involved - generating documentation, providing
training, conducting audits, etc - then the number of days has been at the
higher end of the scale.
3. Existence of systems: if a client has been certified to ISO 9000 (as you
are) I have generally found a time saving, not least because the
"bureaucratic" elements in the last half of the ISO 14001 specification
have a lot in common with parts of ISO 9000. For example, your existing
system (and procedure) for managing records and documentation is very
likely to meet ISO 14001 requirements. (You should still check, though!).
You could also add client motivation as a factor, as well as consultant
factors (such as experience of consultancy personnel). These issues were
raised by Matthias Gelber.
One thing that might help you in committing a contract to a consultant is
to split the job into two parts. (Obviously, this might not be possible
given the stage that you're at.) The first part would be the planning
stage, where you and the consultant carry out a gap analysis designed to
determine with some degree of accuracy what effort is required to get you
through ISO 14001. The gap analysis, literally, should identify the gaps
in your existing systems. (And as I said before, because you have ISO
9002, the gap analysis should identify that for the last half of the
specification, many of the ISO 14001 requirements are already in place and
therefore minimal work may be required.) From your point of view, the gap
analysis would also crystallise the consultancy day requirements: by
identifying in some detail what already exists and what needs to be done, a
detailed estimate of work can be produced.
A gap analysis should only take a few days - maybe 3, 4 - but can only
improve the process later on (and maybe save you from launching into a
bigger consultancy contract than is necessary). And from the other point
of view, a consultant taking on an ISO 14001 job without some form of gap
analysis is potentially going to lose money (because it may take more time
than was planned), unless of course they have built a large contingency
fund into their bid.
So I appreciate I haven't replied with a definitive answer to your
question, but I hope I've nevertheless helped. Best of luck with your
endeavours.
Regards
Anthony J Lambert
The Rubicon
UK
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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 19:35:51 -0500
From: HY BRAVERMAN
Subject: Re: Assistance in ISO 14001
Hello Pedro,
Implementation of an EMS means many things. I'm sure you have the
committments of management, however, what assistance do you have from
the data processing organization? All aspects and magnitude of an EMS
requires specific Information Management considerations.
How will you keep track of all the newly created documents, as well as
legacy data? I would urge you to talk and get committmnet from the data
processing management team. You should include them in the planning
phases as well as design. They need to understand the scope of the
work.
These are my suggestions. I hope they give you a platform for greater
understanding and assistance.
Hy Braverman
Pedro Gonçalves wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Being responsible for the implementation of an ISO 14001 EMS at my company
> and as we are willing to get external help, I asked and received several
> consultancy companies proposals. They have all basicaly the same price/hour
> but they vary (in large extent) in what concerns the amount of time they
> propose to help us in the implementation of the EMS. As there are not much
> experience in Portugal in the amount of time needed for the implementation
> of an EMS I ask you, based in your experience, what do you think would be a
> reasonable number of days (1day = 8 hours) in which such a proposal should
> be based? I mean: how many work-days (estimate, of course!) would YOU
> propose?
>
> My company main characteristics are:
> around 100 workers
> Electrical cable production
> No major environmental problems
> ISO 9002 certified (for 5 years)
>
> Any comments welcomed!
> Thanks,
>
> Pedro Gonçalves
> catarinos@mail.telepac.pt
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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 00:08:20 +0100
From: "Lennart Piper"
Subject: Environmental Performance Assessment and ISO DIS 14031
Mail from Robert Ganzhorn, (Date: 19 November 1998 22:44)
GreenWare Environmental Systems Inc (http://www.greenware.com)
If you click on the next line you will find an article about,
Using information technology to measure, monitor and report on environmental
performance
If you have problems to see the link use:
http://www.greenware.com/whats_new/EPE_paper.htm
This article can be a platform for discussions about the future work for ISO
TC 207/SC4,
SC4 plan to publish ISO 14031 and ISO TR 14032 during 1999. Hopefully SC4
will now consider
the next step in the area of Environmental Performance Assessment and
Environmental Performance Reporting.
SC 4 will meet in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia December 10-14 1998. I will be one
of the participants in the
Kuala Lumpur meeting discussing these subjects with colleagues from
different countries.
Best Regards,
Lennart Piper
http://iso14031.net/epa/epa.htm
This is a web site for people interested in Environmental Performance
Assessment.
The contents of the web site do not represent the official positions or
decisions of ISO/TC 207/SC 4.¤
If you are interested in Environmental Performance Assessment and ISO/DIS
14031 you can participate
in the discussion group.
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:28:00 -0500
From: "Bursley, Juanita M"
Subject: HS&EP BENCHMARKING SURVEY
Author: Juanita M. Bursley at UCAR International Corp.
Date: 12/18/98
My company is in the process of collecting benchmarking data to help
reengineer and maintain an effective Health, Safety, and
Environmental Program for our multinational manufacturing company.
Below is a group of questions on staffing and costs that I am sending
to all members of the ISO-14000 Newsgroup, in hopes that those of you
affiliated with a multinational manufacturing organization would take
a few minutes to provide the requested information. My intentions
are to summarize the data collected and provide it to all
participants that indicate an interest in seeing the results. I do
not need to know the name of your company, so the information
provided will be kept confidential. Please provide your response by
January 8, 1999. Feel free to add any additional comments or
explanations you feel appropriate to the questions below. Thank you
and Happy Holidays!
*******************************************************************
PLEASE do not hit reply to respond to this survey. Either send it to
Juanita.Bursley@UCAR.com or fax it to (216) 676-2697. If you want a
copy of the summarized results, please provide either an E-mail
address, or a fax number.
*********************************************************************
1. Number of countries where you have a manufacturing presence?
__ 2 - 4 countries __ 5 - 7 countries __ 7 - 9 countries
__ 10 - 13 countries __ more than 13 countries
2. General Characterization of the type of Manufacturing Business?
___ Electrical ___ Transportation ___ Metals
___ Furniture ___ Paper & Allied Products ___ Chemical
___ Pharmaceutical ___ Petroleum Products ___ Other
3. Annual Sales (in U.S. Dollars - $): ___________________________
4. Total Number of Worldwide Manufacturing Facilities: ______________
5. Total Number of Worldwide Employees: _____________________________
6. Total Number of Corporate HS&E Staff: ____________________________
7. Equivalent Number of Full Time Personnel Worldwide Devoted to HS&E
_____________________________________________________________________
8. Total Annual Budget for Corporate HS&E Staff (Salaries & Expenses)
_________________________________________________________(U.S. $)
9. Total Annual Budget for Worldwide HS&E (Salaries & Expenses)
________________________________________________________(U.S. $)
OR IF YOU PREFER: Ratio of Annual HS&E Costs to Annual Sales:
________________________________________________________(U.S. $)
10. Do You Have an Internal Auditing Program? ___Yes ___No
11. Do You Utilize Consultants to Conduct Your Audits? ___Yes ___No
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 23:42:37 +0100
From: "Pedro Gonçalves"
Subject: Bibliography info
Dear readers,
Can anyone recomend me a book you found useful in helping you implement an
ISO 14001 EMS?
Please do not mention "ISO 14001 Certification" by Kuhre. I found it with no
or very little use... :)
Thanks everyone and Merry Christmas!
Pedro
catarinos@mail.telepac.pt
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:02:00 -0500
From: HY BRAVERMAN
Subject: Re: Bibliography info
Pedro,
"""Can anyone recomend me a book you found useful in helping you
implement an
ISO 14001 EMS?
Please do not mention "ISO 14001 Certification" by Kuhre. I found it
with no
or very little use... :)"""
Why do you need a book? There are no real books to help you with your
specific siutuation. You have to write your own and uase it for your
organization.
What do you want it to do? You already know all the ISO 14000 layers
and requirement! The general ISO guideline help you find the holes that
need to be filled in.
Ask yourself and organization.
What is the, "AS IS" situation?
What is the "TO BE" goal?
The differences between "AS IS" and "TO BE" are areas you concentrate
on. That is where you develop the map to the goal. The architecture of
an ems in these days are going to be fluid, ever changing, therefrore
any book will be a static snapshot of a narrow period of time. That is
not enough for a valuable organization to invest in. You have to do
some work up fron with the help of a team you have assembled.
The questions you ask are specific to your organization and the
industry. You already have executive support, you will need to establish
and define an information architecture.
Information management architecture is a strategic element in an
environmental management system. You will need the support and
committment from data processing executives and managers. They will be
valuable allies in the process.
No book will help you, you have to write your own for your organization.
This is only a small aspect of the EMS process, there is much more.
Please keep in mind that a defined and committed information management
plan is a critical component to an EMS, you couldn't do one without Data
Processings committment.
(The difference between involvement and committment is like "BACON &
EGGS", the chicken is only involved, but the pig is committed.)
I hope this helps you.
Hy Braverman
(I'm not a consultant, however, I do know industry and the role of
Information Technology. I how IT can be used to help companies. I also
know how mis-applied information can handicap companies to be
competitive inferior ity. Information Technology ia a weapon to be used
by wise and committed staff to win new and sustained business.)
Hy Braverman
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 19:55:10 -0400
From: Reinaldo Ramirez
Subject: Re: Bibliography info
"Pedro Gonçalves" wrote:
> Dear readers,
>
> Can anyone recomend me a book you found useful in helping you implement an
> ISO 14001 EMS?
> Please do not mention "ISO 14001 Certification" by Kuhre. I found it with no
> or very little use... :)
>
> Thanks everyone and Merry Christmas!
>
> Pedro
>
> catarinos@mail.telepac.pt
Try Implementing ISO 14000 by Tom Tibor and Ira Feldman; Irwin Professional
Publishing; The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc. 1997. ISBN-0-7863-1014-6. Excellent
Book!.
Reinaldo Ramirez
Caracas, Venezuela.
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:52:54 -0500
From: Joe Maillet
Subject: Re: Bibliography info
Pedro Gonçalves wrote:
>
> Dear readers,
>
> Can anyone recomend me a book you found useful in helping you implement an
> ISO 14001 EMS?
> Please do not mention "ISO 14001 Certification" by Kuhre. I found it with no
> or very little use... :)
>
> Thanks everyone and Merry Christmas!
>
> Pedro
>
> catarinos@mail.telepac.pt
A "neat" little booklet published by the Canadian Standards Association
entitled "The ISO 14000 Essentials" is very helpful guide.
CSA
178 Rexdale Boulevard
Etobicoke, Ontario
Canada M9W 1R3
ISBN 0-921347-55-3
Joe
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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 15:00:40 -0800
From: Burton Hamner
Subject: new Sustainable Business webspace
Greetings ISO 14'ers!
Greetings Infoterrans!
This is to let you know I have put up a new webspace on Sustainable
Business and I would like to get your opinions on it. It covers a LARGE
number of business/environment topics with links to resources all over the
web. I am going to be revising it based on feedback from the "in crowd".
Suggestions and corrections are welcome!
The address is www.mindspring.com/~bhamner
Best wishes
Burton Hamner
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Burton Hamner
- - Adjunct Professor, Asian Institute of Management, Manila, Philippines
- - President, Hamner Associates, LLC
4343 4th Avenue NW, Seattle, Washington, 98107
tel/fax: 206-789-5499
email: bhamner@mindspring.com
VISIT the SUSTAINABLE BUSINESS WEBSPACE and my home pages at:
web: http://www.mindspring.com/~bhamner
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Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 08:36:46 +0800
From: "Patrick S.W.Fong"
Subject: Sustainable Values
Dear Listers,
I am urgently looking for some definitions (please quote the source if
there is any) and papers that talk about "sustainable values".
Many thanks for your help.
Patrick Fong
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Patrick S.W. Fong
Assistant Professor
Department of Building & Real Estate,
Hong Kong Polytechnic University,
Hung Hom,
Kowloon,
HONG KONG.
Tel: +(852) 2766 5801
Fax: +(852) 2764 5131 or 2764 2572
E-mail: bspafong@polyu.edu.hk
Website: http://home.bre.polyu.edu.hk/~bspafong/
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 20:00:27 +0100
From: "Pedro Gonçalves"
Subject: Thanks
Dear 14k'ers,
Thank you all for the suggestions you made concerning interesting
bibliography regarding the implementation of an ISO 14000 EMS. It's amazing
the amount of publications already available when you go through Amazon or
Barnes & Noble. The problem is chosing one!
Your suggestions will certainly help me.
Thanks (obrigado) again
Pedro Gonçalves
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