iso14000-digest Thursday, August 19 1999 Volume 02 : Number 057
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:51:35 PDT
From: "Koralia Timotheou"
Subject: ISO14001 in Classification Societies
Dear all,
We are trying to implement ISO 14001 in a small Classification Society
(classification of vessels). I was wondering how one can address the
environmental impacts of the provision of classification services and for
surveys. Any thoughts?
Koralia Timotheou
ktimotheou@hotmail.com
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:59:08 -0500
From: "Smith, Brent"
Subject: RE: Environmental policy
There are several corporate environmental policies at:
http://www.trst.com/policies.htm
Brent Smith
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Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 23:52:54 PDT
From: "Koralia Timotheou"
Subject: Re: Beneficial significant impacts.
Even though answering a bit late, I hope I can still be of some help.
Beneficial environmental aspects and impacts are harder to find than adverse
ones because few companies have obvious ones. However, planting trees on a
site, organising - or even easier - sponsoring campagnes on environment
preservation and awareness, are examples of positive impacts beacause they
don't fix something that is going wrong but they are improving on something
(being proactive in some sense). An even more important positive impact for
a design office for example is to make an objective of providing all its
customers with environmentally-sound alternatives to their design
requirements (e.g. low energy consuming machinery, good insulation in
buildings etc.). Consultants can have positive environmental impacts if
they can prove that they advise their clients - and - convince them to make
sound environmental choices, investments etc. Environmental training is
another one.
As to how registrars view this, well, the one that I have talked to gave me
the impression that they are not expecting many of these positive aspects to
be addressed during the initial stages of EMS implementation since at that
stage people are usually trying to fix up all the mess! But later, when
they meet all regulations and further decreases and reductions in emissions,
raw materials etc. become impossible, the requirement for continuous
improvement can only be met with enhancing these possitive enviro aspects.
- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Koralia Timotheou
Civil and Environmental Engineer.
MEng. ACGI
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Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 14:23:07 -0300
From: "Macarena Ortega"
Subject: Environmental policy
Dear listers,
I am looking for examples of corporate environmental policies. Do you
know where can I find them? Any hel would be appreciate.
Thank you in advance
Macarena Ortega
mortega@fundch.cl
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:04:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bill Casti (System Admin)"
Subject: I need information about ISO 14000 (fwd)
NOTE: If any of you ISO14000 gurus care to help Silvia with her project,
please contact her directly at her email address below.
Thanks.
Bill
- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 16:25:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Silvia Martinez
Subject: I need information about ISO 14000
My name is Silvia Martínez Vásquez, My english is not good but I try
writing and schearching information, I am doing a research project on
ISO 14 000. I would appreciate any and all references to datas,
history dates, staditics about ISO 14000 for example: numbers companies
certification on ISO 14000, caracterists economics of companies have
ISO 14000 (size, number employees, invesment for implement ISO 14000)
and others datas or items of interest. I am student in the University
of concepción in chile
Thanks for any and all information can you give me
Bye
Sincerely,
Silvia Martínez Vásquez
Alumna de la Universidad de Concepción
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:48:42 -0700
From: Burton Hamner
Subject: World Bank evaluation of environmental impact (fwd)
FYI. While this is mostly of interest to those who are pretty
knowledgeable about World Bank programs and operations, the wide ranging
discussion (you can read it on their website) raises lots of issues about
the effectiveness of sustainability interventions that are relevant to a
much broader audience. Too bad we don't all have the money the World Bank
does to try things out.
>>
>> A MESSAGE FROM THE WORLD BANK TO INTERACTION MEMBER AGENCIES
>
>> The World Bank's Operations Evaluation Department (OED) invites you to
>> join an electronic discussion on the evaluation of the World Bank
>> Group's performance in promoting environmental sustainability in
>> development. The discussion begins on July 6, 1999 and will last for a
>> period of four to six weeks. The objective is:
>
>> * to bring together representatives from NGOs, private sector,
>> international organizations and other stakeholders to discuss their
>> views on the Bank's performance in promoting environmental
>> sustainability in development;
>
>> * for the OED to obtain useful knowledge (relevant information and
>> evidence) for its evaluation; and
>
>> * to prepare the ground for the dissemination and assimilation of the
>> evaluation's findings by the Bank and other interested stakeholders.
>
>> In the late 1980s, following upon growing worldwide concerns about the
>> compatibility of economic development with environmental
>> sustainability, the World Bank greatly strengthened its efforts to
>> integrate environmental concerns into the mainstream of developmental
>> policymaking. This led to introduction of environmental concerns into
>> the development agenda; the design and implementation of a great
>> number and variety of environmental products, including projects,
>> policy guidance, research and training; the formulation of widely
>> accepted guidelines on environmental matters; and the broadening of
>> the Bank's reach through its leadership role in the global
>> environmental debate and new partnerships with international and local
>> organizations. However, considering the magnitude of environmental
>> issues, the impact of the World Bank Group's programs on broad
>> environmental trends in the developing world has been limited, and the
>> achievements of various programs have been mixed. Serious issues are
>> still being raised about the Bank Group's performance in living up to
>> its commitment to environmental sustainability.
>
>> Information on this online discussion, including background materials,
>> can be found in the Development Forum discussion space on the World
>> Bank's web site
>
>
>> The conference will take the form of a moderated email discussion
>> list, archived onto the Development Forum website. A team of
>> moderators will review all messages for relevance before posting them
>> to the list. The moderators will also prepare regular summaries of
>> the discussion for posting both to the list and to the Forum site.
>
>> We plan to prepare a synthesis report of the discussions based on the
>> responses. This report will form the basis for future work including
>> workshops, short notes, and commissioned papers. The conference is
>> open to the public. However, the moderators will enforce both the
>> general rules of decorum of the Development Forum and the specific
>> rule that contributions to this conference should be directly
>> addressed to the issues under discussion. If you wish to participate,
>> please send an email to:
>
> majordomo@jazz.worldbank.org
>
>
>> Leave the subject line blank.
>
>> In the body of the message, type the following: subscribe E-SUST You
>> will receive a welcome message confirming your subscription.
>
>> For further information, or if you have questions, please contact:
>> Moderator3@worldbank.org
>
>
********************************************************************
Burton Hamner
President, Hamner and Associates LLC
Adjunct Professor, Asian Institute of Management
4343 4th Avenue NW, Seattle Washington USA 91807
Tel/fax: 206-789-5499 (call before sending a fax)
Email: bhamner@mindspring.com
Web: The Sustainable Business Webspace, www.mindspring.com/~bhamner
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:48:42 -0700
From: Burton Hamner
Subject: World Bank evaluation of environmental impact (fwd)
FYI. While this is mostly of interest to those who are pretty
knowledgeable about World Bank programs and operations, the wide ranging
discussion (you can read it on their website) raises lots of issues about
the effectiveness of sustainability interventions that are relevant to a
much broader audience. Too bad we don't all have the money the World Bank
does to try things out.
>>
>> A MESSAGE FROM THE WORLD BANK TO INTERACTION MEMBER AGENCIES
>
>> The World Bank's Operations Evaluation Department (OED) invites you to
>> join an electronic discussion on the evaluation of the World Bank
>> Group's performance in promoting environmental sustainability in
>> development. The discussion begins on July 6, 1999 and will last for a
>> period of four to six weeks. The objective is:
>
>> * to bring together representatives from NGOs, private sector,
>> international organizations and other stakeholders to discuss their
>> views on the Bank's performance in promoting environmental
>> sustainability in development;
>
>> * for the OED to obtain useful knowledge (relevant information and
>> evidence) for its evaluation; and
>
>> * to prepare the ground for the dissemination and assimilation of the
>> evaluation's findings by the Bank and other interested stakeholders.
>
>> In the late 1980s, following upon growing worldwide concerns about the
>> compatibility of economic development with environmental
>> sustainability, the World Bank greatly strengthened its efforts to
>> integrate environmental concerns into the mainstream of developmental
>> policymaking. This led to introduction of environmental concerns into
>> the development agenda; the design and implementation of a great
>> number and variety of environmental products, including projects,
>> policy guidance, research and training; the formulation of widely
>> accepted guidelines on environmental matters; and the broadening of
>> the Bank's reach through its leadership role in the global
>> environmental debate and new partnerships with international and local
>> organizations. However, considering the magnitude of environmental
>> issues, the impact of the World Bank Group's programs on broad
>> environmental trends in the developing world has been limited, and the
>> achievements of various programs have been mixed. Serious issues are
>> still being raised about the Bank Group's performance in living up to
>> its commitment to environmental sustainability.
>
>> Information on this online discussion, including background materials,
>> can be found in the Development Forum discussion space on the World
>> Bank's web site
>
>
>> The conference will take the form of a moderated email discussion
>> list, archived onto the Development Forum website. A team of
>> moderators will review all messages for relevance before posting them
>> to the list. The moderators will also prepare regular summaries of
>> the discussion for posting both to the list and to the Forum site.
>
>> We plan to prepare a synthesis report of the discussions based on the
>> responses. This report will form the basis for future work including
>> workshops, short notes, and commissioned papers. The conference is
>> open to the public. However, the moderators will enforce both the
>> general rules of decorum of the Development Forum and the specific
>> rule that contributions to this conference should be directly
>> addressed to the issues under discussion. If you wish to participate,
>> please send an email to:
>
> majordomo@jazz.worldbank.org
>
>
>> Leave the subject line blank.
>
>> In the body of the message, type the following: subscribe E-SUST You
>> will receive a welcome message confirming your subscription.
>
>> For further information, or if you have questions, please contact:
>> Moderator3@worldbank.org
>
>
********************************************************************
Burton Hamner
President, Hamner and Associates LLC
Adjunct Professor, Asian Institute of Management
4343 4th Avenue NW, Seattle Washington USA 91807
Tel/fax: 206-789-5499 (call before sending a fax)
Email: bhamner@mindspring.com
Web: The Sustainable Business Webspace, www.mindspring.com/~bhamner
********************************************************************
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:51:28 +0200
From: "Francis E. Farrugia"
Subject: EMAS Update
Can anyone provide information of the recent changes to EMAS
FE. Farrugia
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 12:34:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bill Casti (System Admin)"
Subject: Non-member submission from ["Macarena Ortega" ] (fwd)
NOTE: Please respond directly to the inquirer, not to the list,
since s/he isn't a subscriber to the list.
Bill
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 11:16:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Macarena Ortega"
Organization: Fundacion Chile
To: iso14000@quality.org
Subject: ISO 14001 in salmon farming
Dear listers:
I am looking for information related with ISO 14001 / EMAS
application in salmon farming facilities. I would like to know costs
and benefits for this kind of SGA in aquaculture for salmon
producers. Any information please respond directly to
mortega@fundch.cl.
Thank you in advance,
Macarena Ortega
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:10:39 +0000
From: Michael_J._Chambers@bausch.com (Michael J. Chambers)
Subject: Beneficial significant impacts.
Has anybody identified "postive" or "beneficial" significant aspects
that translated into objectives/targets? If so, can you share your
example(s)? (the standard tells us to identify adverse and
beneficial).
I'm wondering how 3rd party registrars have viewed this issue.
Do we codify the good things we're doing to ensure we keep doing them?
-or- would significant aspects be better focused on improving
deficiencies?
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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 09:25:25 -0500
From: "Smith, Brent"
Subject: RE: Lead Auditor Courses
I would try the list of RAB certified companies and then check out their
schedules individually at their web sites. Go to:
http://www.rabnet.com/cgi/ems_co_query.cgi
Brent Smith
- -----Original Message-----
From: Phil McCreight [mailto:pmac1@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, July 05, 1999 9:15 PM
To: ISO14000@quality.org
Subject: Re: Lead Auditor Courses
Does anyone know of a good Lead Auditor course in the South Eastern United
States Region.
thanks
Phillip McCreight
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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 20:41:33 +0500
From: Naeem Ismat
Subject: EMS in Spinning Mills
Dear listers,
Any of you have any experience in ISO 14001 implementation in Spinning Mills?
I am very interested in this topic and I need information about some monitoring parameters/significant impacts etc.
If any of you could help me please respond directly to me in order not to disturb other listers not interested in this topic.
Thank you in anticipation,
Naeem Ismat
mail: naeem.ismat@servis.com.pk
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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:48:39 -0300
From: "Macarena Ortega"
Subject: EMS in salmon farming
Dear listers,
I know that in Nova Scotia exists a facility who is implementing ISO
14001 for their salmon farming operation. Any of you have any
experience in ISO 14001 implementation in aquaculture? I am very
interested in this topic and I need information about costs and
benefits resulting from EMS implementation in a salmon farming
facility. If any of you could help me please respond directly to me
in order not to disturb other listers not interested in this topic.
Thank you in advance,
Macarena Ortega
mortega@fundch.cl
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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:19:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bill Casti (System Admin)"
Subject: Re: [Fwd: OHSAS 18001 (fwd)]
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Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 14:00:39 -0400
From: Susan Graff
Subject: lead auditor training
As an EARA registered auditor, i recommend the lead auditor course offered
thru StataMatrix- I took it a few years ago and thought it was excellent.
Their number is 1 800 472-6477. They're in NJ but offer it throughout the
country at different times.
Have you taken internal auditor training? My Company offers a course at
Southface Institute in Atlanta - next date is in September 99.
Susan Graff
President
Environmental Resource Services, Inc
Atlanta, GA 30324
404 231-5522 p
404 231-5521 f
Visit our website at http://www.envsource.com for a copy of our latest
newsletter on sustainable business strategies.
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Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 14:39:05 -0400
From: Robert Clifford
Subject: re: Environmental policy
I'm not aware of any compendiums (sp.?) of environmental policies; however,
log onto most chemical company's websites (Johnson & Johnson, Proctor &
Gamble, etc.) and you should find some examples.
By the way, J & J was once associated with one of the best
environmentally-oriented mission statements I'd ever heard of: "We will not
produce any product that we cannot sell."
Robert Clifford, Jr.
ISO Environmental Consultancy, Inc.
1103 Glenwood Blvd
Schenectady NY 12308-2503
Phone/Fax - 518-393-3392
clifford@quality.org
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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:15:59 -0300
From: "Hickman, Charles"
Subject: Software
I work for a medium sized electricity company with 2500 employees, and we
are in the process of implementing 14001 in 8 sections / facilities of the
company. I am looking for information on software that other companies have
used to help both implement and manage the maintenance of the EMS system -
have any list members used commercial software (names / contacts, did it
help, what were strengths / weaknesses), developed their own, or considered
this issue
All comments appreciated.
- ----------------
Charles Hickman
NB Power
Tel: 506 458 6555
FAX: 506 458 4000
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:40:56 -0500
From: "Smith, Brent"
Subject: Free ISO 14001 Services
I am looking for opportunities to provide ISO 14001 Gap Analyses or to
assist in ISO 14001 internal auditing for facilities or ISO 14001 external
auditing for a Registrar, with the cost paid by my employer. I am working to
acquire my 20 days of ISO 14001 experience for RAB certification.
I have had ISO 14001 Lead Auditor, ISO 14001 Implementation, ISO 14001
Overview, and ISO 9001 Implementation training courses. While "on loan" to a
Registrar from the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE), I was involved in four
ISO 14001 and seven ISO 9001 audits. I have also performed ISO 14001 and ISO
9001 Gap Analyses for DOE and have done one ISO 14001 audit for DOE. I also
have about 25 years of environmental compliance experience.
I can be reached via e-mail (bsmith1311@aol.com
) or at (504) 734-4970 (office).
Brent W. Smith, REM
Quality Assurance Specialist
Quality Assurance Division
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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:38:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bill Casti (System Admin)"
Subject: OHSAS 18001 (fwd)
NOTE: If any of you on this list can help him, please contact him
directly.
Reminder: "owner-iso14000@quality.org" goes only to me, not to the list.
Since the ISO14000 list is NOT a moderated list, there's no point in
sending stuff to me; I don't subscribe to the list and know next to
nothing about ISO14000. :(
Regards.
Bill
- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 10:28:52 -0700
From: "Bernard, Bob"
To: "'owner-iso14000@quality.org'"
Subject: OHSAS 18001
I would appreciate finding out if OHSAS 18001, Occupational Health and
Safety Assessment Series Specification, and OHSAS 18002, Guidelines for the
implementation of OHSAS 18001, have been published and how I might be able
to obtain copies.
Your response would be greatly appreciated.
vvvvv
R.A. (Bob) Bernard, P. Eng.
Senior Safety Engineer
BC Hydro, Corporate Safety Department
6911 Southpoint Drive (E12)
Burnaby, BC, Canada V3N 4X8
Ph: (604) 528-2183 Fax: (604) 528-3465
e-mail: robert.bernard@bchydro.bc.ca
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:58:33 +0800
From: "sreeni"
Subject: Re: Beneficial significant impacts.
Hi all,
I am making a presentation to a group of Mining and Cement companies
regarding ISO 14000 on Aug 25, as apart of my project, I will appreciate if
anyone can give me some info on
A. Benefits to these industries
B. Significant aspects related to these industries
C. List of certified companies in these industries
Thank you very much.
Sreeni
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Koralia Timotheou
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: Beneficial significant impacts.
> Even though answering a bit late, I hope I can still be of some help.
>
> Beneficial environmental aspects and impacts are harder to find than
adverse
> ones because few companies have obvious ones. However, planting trees on
a
> site, organising - or even easier - sponsoring campagnes on environment
> preservation and awareness, are examples of positive impacts beacause they
> don't fix something that is going wrong but they are improving on
something
> (being proactive in some sense). An even more important positive impact
for
> a design office for example is to make an objective of providing all its
> customers with environmentally-sound alternatives to their design
> requirements (e.g. low energy consuming machinery, good insulation in
> buildings etc.). Consultants can have positive environmental impacts if
> they can prove that they advise their clients - and - convince them to
make
> sound environmental choices, investments etc. Environmental training is
> another one.
>
> As to how registrars view this, well, the one that I have talked to gave
me
> the impression that they are not expecting many of these positive aspects
to
> be addressed during the initial stages of EMS implementation since at that
> stage people are usually trying to fix up all the mess! But later, when
> they meet all regulations and further decreases and reductions in
emissions,
> raw materials etc. become impossible, the requirement for continuous
> improvement can only be met with enhancing these possitive enviro aspects.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Koralia Timotheou
> Civil and Environmental Engineer.
> MEng. ACGI
>
>
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
>
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:56:23 -0500
From: "David L. Turner"
Subject: Re: Beneficial significant impacts.
We have considered increasing the volume of recyled
materials and using that as a target. I don't see why
increasing the good would be unacceptable. One could argue
that, for instance, recycling is really only a cleanup of a
bad thing, and therefore is not really "positive" but at
some point the discussion turns into one of semantics.
This reminds me of many discussions we have hear about how
autidors will view our activities and procedures. I think
that we need to keep in mind that they are auditing us, but
at the same time, we are still customers of a service.
Auditors are interpreters of rules, but the subjective
nature of the interpretation process allows input from the
auditee as well as the auditor.
I hope this makes sense. It's been a long week already ; )
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Sitting quietly, doing nothing.
The grass grows by itself.
Regards,
David Turner
YSI Safety & Environmental Coordinator
1725 Brannum Lane
Yellow Springs, Ohio 45387
Email: DTurner@YSI.com
Phone 1-937-767-1685 ext. 270
Facmetaphor: 1-937-767-9353
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:51:28 +0200
From: "Francis E. Farrugia"
Subject: EMAS Update
Can anyone provide information of the recent changes to EMAS
FE. Farrugia
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Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 12:29:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bill Casti (System Admin)"
Subject: Non-member submission from [CK ] (fwd)
NOTE: If interested, respond to the POSTER'S ADDRESS (below), not to the
list.
Bill
- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 01:03:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: CK
Subject: Re: EIA Site
Hello,
I am putting together a webpage collection of Environmental Impact
Assessment (EIA) reports. The hardest part about this project is to get
EIAs in digital format. I have pleaded with authorities to ask the
project proponent to make it available in digital format but have meet
with resistant which prompted me to pursue this even more. In fact, I am
wondering if it is possible to legally enforce proponents to prepare
EIAs in digital format ? So if you can help or know someone who can, it
will be appreciated. As a reward, your contribution will be
acknowledged. So far I am scanning them in and it takes a lot of work.
The aim of this website is to encourage "peer-review" and the only way
is to put as many EIAs next to each other as possible. Also it will
allow more people access to EIAs and more. Your input and ideas to
expand this site are most welcome. It is almost 30 years since 1969 when
EIA regime was initiated although many countries follow in the early
70s. From a historical standpoint, I hope to be able to gather some of
this reports reflecting the last 30 years. So if you have some past EIAs
sitting around, pls sent it to me at
1 Roma Ave, Kensington NSW 2033, Australia
Cheers
Chris kwan
(formerly Lecturer in Environmental Law, now Managing Director of
Ecorp.NU Pty Ltd)
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Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 14:23:07 -0300
From: "Macarena Ortega"
Subject: Environmental policy
Dear listers,
I am looking for examples of corporate environmental policies. Do you
know where can I find them? Any hel would be appreciate.
Thank you in advance
Macarena Ortega
mortega@fundch.cl
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:59:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bill Casti (System Admin)"
Subject: Non-member submission from [Alexander Damerow ] (fwd)
NOTE: A posting from a subscriber to the ISO14000 Digest list. Being a
subscriber to one list does not grant posting privileges to the other
list. :/ Please respond to the poster at his email address below, not to
the list or to me.
Bill
- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 03:37:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: Alexander Damerow
Subject: Requirements for an environmental standard
Dear interested listeners,
i follow the iso 14000 list now for a while and found some interesting
threads in here.
Maybe some of you can help me to fill up my thesis with some ideas on the
standard.
My questions are the following:
(The first two questions are my main problems at the moment.)
1. What influence had interest groups on the development or revision of the
standard ?
2. What requirements should a environmental standard have? (from company
and its stakeholders point of view?)
3. What are the main weak points in the standard ?
4. What action should be taken in revisions?
5. How do you see the future development in this standard?
6. Are there any free studies on the above mentioned points available?
Anybody should feel free to give me his/her comments on one or more of the
above questions.
Thank you very much for your comments.
Best regards
Alexander Damerow
University of Technology Dresden (Germany)
damerow@lcs.com.hk
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:51:35 PDT
From: "Koralia Timotheou"
Subject: ISO14001 in Classification Societies
Dear all,
We are trying to implement ISO 14001 in a small Classification Society
(classification of vessels). I was wondering how one can address the
environmental impacts of the provision of classification services and for
surveys. Any thoughts?
Koralia Timotheou
ktimotheou@hotmail.com
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:10:39 +0000
From: Michael_J._Chambers@bausch.com (Michael J. Chambers)
Subject: Beneficial significant impacts.
Has anybody identified "postive" or "beneficial" significant aspects
that translated into objectives/targets? If so, can you share your
example(s)? (the standard tells us to identify adverse and
beneficial).
I'm wondering how 3rd party registrars have viewed this issue.
Do we codify the good things we're doing to ensure we keep doing them?
-or- would significant aspects be better focused on improving
deficiencies?
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 21:30:23 +0200
From: "Lennart Piper"
Subject: OHSAS 18001 (fwd)
Dear Bob,
OHSAS 18001, Occupational Health and Safety Assessment Series Specification
were published 15 April 1999,
The document was available from BSI, UK, 11 May 1999.
OHSAS 18002, Guidelines for the implementation of OHSAS 18001 is expected to
be published in October 1999.
There is a draft of OHSAS 18002-V7 in progress and the next OHSAS meeting
will take place 2 September 1999,
final review of comments against OHSAS 18002 is expected in October 1999.
Go to http://www.bsi.org.uk/bsi/news/press/gen-britstand/ohsasart.htm or
write an E-mail to Charles_Corrie@bsi.org.uk,
the project secretary and you will receive information how to order the
documents.
Best Regards,
Lennart Piper
Swedish Industry Association - SINF
www.lennart.piper.net
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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 10:28:52 -0700
From: "Bernard, Bob"
To: "'owner-iso14000@quality.org'"
Subject: OHSAS 18001
I would appreciate finding out if OHSAS 18001, Occupational Health and
Safety Assessment Series Specification, and OHSAS 18002, Guidelines for the
implementation of OHSAS 18001, have been published and how I might be able
to obtain copies.
Your response would be greatly appreciated.
vvvvv
R.A. (Bob) Bernard, P. Eng.
Senior Safety Engineer
BC Hydro, Corporate Safety Department
6911 Southpoint Drive (E12)
Burnaby, BC, Canada V3N 4X8
Ph: (604) 528-2183 Fax: (604) 528-3465
e-mail: robert.bernard@bchydro.bc.ca
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:00:14 -0400
From: Robert Clifford
Subject: Beneficial significant impactsre:
Mr. Chambers wrote:
> Has anybody identified "postive" or "beneficial" significant aspects
> that translated into objectives/targets? If so, can you share your
> example(s)? (the standard tells us to identify adverse and
> beneficial).
I've seen, as a significant aspect, a reduction in air/water emissions.
The impact was a general improvement to the environment occuring as a
result of lower emissions. The aspect was significant, however, because
the company assigned significance to most "regulated" aspects. The
objective then became an additional percentage reduction (say 10% more over
a yearlong period). Essentially, they were improving on a good thing.
> I'm wondering how 3rd party registrars have viewed this issue.
As an auditor for a 3rd party registrar, I think that we'd view it as
evidence of a very comprehensive aspect / significance analysis procedure,
since you're right in assuming that most companies focus only on a few,
negative impacts.
> Do we codify the good things we're doing to ensure we keep doing
them?
> -or- would significant aspects be better focused on improving
> deficiencies?
Yes to both. The objective of an EMS is *control* over environmental
aspects. "Beneficial" aspects still require control to maintain the
benefit over time. Deficiencies also require control, since they could
lead to regulatory non-compliance, reverse pollution prevention efforts,
and/or prevent continual improvement of environmental performance. The
effort needed to control these aspects is assigned based on significance.
And significance is often quantified on the basis of the *degree* of
impact, whether that occurs in a "good" or "bad" direction.
Robert Clifford, Jr.
ISO Environmental Consultancy, Inc.
1103 Glenwood Blvd
Schenectady NY 12308-2503
Phone/Fax - 518-393-3392
clifford@quality.org
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 23:03:24 -0400
From: Diana Baldi
Subject: Beneficial significant impacts.
A few examples of positive aspects that turned into objectives:
Preserving habitat near a facility (native plants, animals, wildlife
preserve)--this would be opposed to having the site mainly concrete or
asphalt.
Golf course on site (controversial since upkeep could be chemical and water
intensive)
Pond that employees fish
visual appearance of facility--building, natural lighting,
landscaping--could be important if company is expanding, remodeling, or
building another facility
wellness programs for employees (more for health & safety, but could be in
scope for environmental if the company desires)
earth day "type" awareness programs
the use of recyled or recovered metal in foundry instead of freshly mined
ore
Do these seem like positives to you?
Diana Baldi
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:56:23 -0500
From: "David L. Turner"
Subject: Re: Beneficial significant impacts.
We have considered increasing the volume of recyled
materials and using that as a target. I don't see why
increasing the good would be unacceptable. One could argue
that, for instance, recycling is really only a cleanup of a
bad thing, and therefore is not really "positive" but at
some point the discussion turns into one of semantics.
This reminds me of many discussions we have hear about how
autidors will view our activities and procedures. I think
that we need to keep in mind that they are auditing us, but
at the same time, we are still customers of a service.
Auditors are interpreters of rules, but the subjective
nature of the interpretation process allows input from the
auditee as well as the auditor.
I hope this makes sense. It's been a long week already ; )
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Sitting quietly, doing nothing.
The grass grows by itself.
Regards,
David Turner
YSI Safety & Environmental Coordinator
1725 Brannum Lane
Yellow Springs, Ohio 45387
Email: DTurner@YSI.com
Phone 1-937-767-1685 ext. 270
Facmetaphor: 1-937-767-9353
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:40:56 -0500
From: "Smith, Brent"
Subject: Free ISO 14001 Services
I am looking for opportunities to provide ISO 14001 Gap Analyses or to
assist in ISO 14001 internal auditing for facilities or ISO 14001 external
auditing for a Registrar, with the cost paid by my employer. I am working to
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I have had ISO 14001 Lead Auditor, ISO 14001 Implementation, ISO 14001
Overview, and ISO 9001 Implementation training courses. While "on loan" to a
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I can be reached via e-mail (bsmith1311@aol.com
) or at (504) 734-4970 (office).
Brent W. Smith, REM
Quality Assurance Specialist
Quality Assurance Division
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:04:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bill Casti (System Admin)"
Subject: I need information about ISO 14000 (fwd)
NOTE: If any of you ISO14000 gurus care to help Silvia with her project,
please contact her directly at her email address below.
Thanks.
Bill
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 16:25:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Silvia Martinez
Subject: I need information about ISO 14000
My name is Silvia Martínez Vásquez, My english is not good but I try
writing and schearching information, I am doing a research project on
ISO 14 000. I would appreciate any and all references to datas,
history dates, staditics about ISO 14000 for example: numbers companies
certification on ISO 14000, caracterists economics of companies have
ISO 14000 (size, number employees, invesment for implement ISO 14000)
and others datas or items of interest. I am student in the University
of concepción in chile
Thanks for any and all information can you give me
Bye
Sincerely,
Silvia Martínez Vásquez
Alumna de la Universidad de Concepción
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