iso14000-digest       Monday, September 13 1999       Volume 02 : Number 059




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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:19:55 -0400 (EDT)
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On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, Bursley, Juanita M wrote:

>   Hi Bill,
>   
>   I've never complained before, unlike a lot of other subscribers to this 
>   group, but I continue to get two or more copies of every message.  I 
>   wanted to bring this to your attention in hopes that the problem could be 
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>   probably the only one that can take some action to address this problem.  
>   I don't want to unsubscribe, but I'd also prefer not to have to continue 
>   to have this nuisance.
>   
>   Thanks!
>   Juanita Bursley
> 
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> Subject: I need information about ISO 14000 (fwd)
> Author:  ,Bill Casti (System Admin) [SMTP:help@quality.org] at WWWEB
> Date:    8/4/99 10:04 PM
> 
> 
> NOTE: If any of you ISO14000 gurus care to help Silvia with her project, 
> please contact her directly at her email address below.
> Thanks.
> Bill
>   
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- 
> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 16:25:41 -0700 (PDT) 
> From: Silvia Martinez  
> Subject: I need information about ISO 14000
>   
>   
> My name is Silvia Martínez Vásquez, My english is not good but I try 
> writing and schearching information, I am doing a research project on 
> ISO 14 000.   I would appreciate any and all references to datas, 
> history dates, staditics about ISO 14000 for example: numbers companies 
> certification on ISO 14000, caracterists economics of companies have 
> ISO 14000 (size, number employees, invesment for implement ISO 14000) 
> and others datas or items of interest.  I am student in the University 
> of concepción in chile
>   
> Thanks for any and all information can you give me
>   
>   
> Bye
>   
> Sincerely,
> Silvia Martínez Vásquez
> Alumna de la Universidad de Concepción
>   
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:34:47 -0400
From: Michael_J._Chambers@bausch.com (Michael J. Chambers)
Subject: Re[2]: I need information about ISO 14000 (fwd)

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On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, Bursley, Juanita M wrote:
     =

>   Hi Bill,
>   =

>   I've never complained before, unlike a lot of other subscribers to th=
is =

>   group, but I continue to get two or more copies of every message.  I =

>   wanted to bring this to your attention in hopes that the problem coul=
d be =

>   corrected.  I realize it may not be your fault, per se, but you're =

>   probably the only one that can take some action to address this probl=
em.  =

>   I don't want to unsubscribe, but I'd also prefer not to have to conti=
nue =

>   to have this nuisance.
>   =

>   Thanks!
>   Juanita Bursley
> =

> =

> ______________________________ Reply Separator =

> _________________________________
> Subject: I need information about ISO 14000 (fwd)
> Author:  ,Bill Casti (System Admin) [SMTP:help@quality.org] at WWWEB =

> Date:    8/4/99 10:04 PM
> =

> =

> NOTE: If any of you ISO14000 gurus care to help Silvia with her project=
, =

> please contact her directly at her email address below.
> Thanks.
> Bill
>   =

> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- =

> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 16:25:41 -0700 (PDT) =

> From: Silvia Martinez  =

> Subject: I need information about ISO 14000 =

>   =

>   =

> My name is Silvia Mart=EDnez V=E1squez, My english is not good but I tr=
y =

> writing and schearching information, I am doing a research project on =

> ISO 14 000.   I would appreciate any and all references to datas, =

> history dates, staditics about ISO 14000 for example: numbers companies=
 =

> certification on ISO 14000, caracterists economics of companies have =

> ISO 14000 (size, number employees, invesment for implement ISO 14000) =

> and others datas or items of interest.  I am student in the University =

> of concepci=F3n in chile
>   =

> Thanks for any and all information can you give me =

>   =

>   =

> Bye
>   =

> Sincerely,
> Silvia Mart=EDnez V=E1squez
> Alumna de la Universidad de Concepci=F3n =

>   =

> _____________________________________________________________ =

> Do You Yahoo!?
> Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com =

> =

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:22:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bill Casti (System Admin)" 
Subject: Non-member submission from ["Phat Nguyen" ]    (fwd)

If interested in assisting, please contact him directly, at his email
address below. Thanks.

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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 05:39:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Phat Nguyen" 
To: 
Subject: ISO14000

Hi there,
I'm studying to know all about  ISO14000,  I'm interested in this for my
job. Could anybody can send me all the request of  ISO14000  for the
most company and if you can send me an examples of corporate
environmental policies in text files, because I don't have an Internet
access, just email.

If you can, please send it to my email address only, because I don't
want to disturb anyone else.
Thank you very much
Best regards.
Phat Nguyen
PhatND@reh.vnn.vn

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:00:06 +0100
From: Anthony J Lambert 
Subject: Certifiers in Jamaica

Can anyone please give me the names and contact details for any 
ISO 14001 certifiers in Jamaica?

Thank you.


____________________________________________________

Anthony J Lambert
lambert/rubicon
London, UK
http://www.the-rubicon.demon.co.uk

Environmental consultancy
FileMaker Pro solutions development
HTML formatting
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:39:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bill Casti (System Admin)" 
Subject: Submission from [weisz@ecitele.com]    (fwd)

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:34:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: weisz@ecitele.com
Subject: EPE indexes

Dear Listers,
We ECI Telecom following ISO14001 certification are working now on the EPE
indexes including continuos improvement.
Our first improvement issue is printing paper economy. In order to make
sense for our employees , we are looking for the timber equivalent of 1 kg
of printing paper or how many kilograms of paper are equivalent to an
average tree. I would appreciate if some body will answer my enquiry.
Regards,

Tedy

========================================================
Teodor Weisz
Senior Corporate Compliance Eng.
CE, UL & EMS (ISO14k) Coordinator.
ECI Telecom Ltd. , Israel , 30 Hasivim St. Petah-Tikva , Israel 49133
mailto:weisz@ecitele.com
Phone : + 972-3-9266842           Fax :  +972-3-9266380

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:12:19 -0400
From: "Phil McCreight" 
Subject: Research Info

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I am in need of research information regarding issues relating to United =
States Environmental Law and ISO 14001.

Thanks

Phil


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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:18:25 -0300
From: "Macarena Ortega" 
Subject: founfry

 Dear listers,

I am looking for foundry operations in Europe who are certified now 
ISO 14001. I am also interested in knowing the certifier who 
certified them.

Thank you


**************************************************
Macarena Ortega
e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl
*************************************************

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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:36:39 +0100
From: "Matthias Gelber" 
Subject: RE: foundry

Macarena

Possibly the first foundry in the world which got ISO 14001 certification
(they actually started with BS 7750 and later got EMAS as well) was
Wolstenholm International Ltd in the UK.
A nice case study has been written up about them by the UK Environmental
Technology Best Practise Programme (www.etsu.com/ETBPP) with detailed
information on costs, benefits and return on investment. In their case the
payback period was only 4.5 months. Additionally a manual for EMS
implementation in foundries was developed by ETBPP, however it very much
focussed on language and terminology of BS 7750.

I am not sure however who certified them.

Hope this is of help.

Matthias Gelber
mgelber@ibm.net

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Subject: founfry


 Dear listers,

I am looking for foundry operations in Europe who are certified now
ISO 14001. I am also interested in knowing the certifier who
certified them.

Thank you


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Macarena Ortega
e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl
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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 16:13:58 +0100
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pedro_Gon=E7alves?= 
Subject: Info on 4.4.3.

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Dear listers,

Can anyone clarify me the last statement of clause 4.4.3. =
"Communication"? As there is not as yet a portuguese translation of the =
standard, i have a problem with this statement:

- -"The organization shall consider processes for external communication =
on its significant environmental aspects and record its decision."

Does this means that if a company is asked (externally) for some sort of =
information on one of its significant environmental aspects, it can =
chose not to provide the information and when so, it has to record why =
it did not provide it?

Thanks for any input regarding this.

Pedro Gon=E7alves


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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 13:18:38 EDT
From: Dmhunterjr@aol.com
Subject: Re: Info on 4.4.3.

I believe the statement means the company must have a communications policy 
and adhere to it.  If the policy requires external release of information 
when requested then a failure to disclose information would be inconsistent 
with its EMS.  

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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 13:19:49 -0400
From: "Connie G. Ritzert" 
Subject: RE: Info on 4.4.3.

Pedro, et.al. :  The ISO 14001 statement from Clause 4.4.3 in your question 
is confusing in any language.  It was developed as a compromise, and as is 
the case with so many compromises,  the statement lacks clarity of meaning. 
 It is more clear if you understand the background that led to this 
statement.

In ISO TC207/SC1, the subcommittee which developed ISO 14001,  there has 
been general agreement that communication with external parties is a useful 
part of environmental management, but there has been disagreement on 
whether such communication should be mandatory in the standard.  Some have 
argued that external communication about an organization's environmental 
aspects and potential impacts, as well as its efforts to manage those 
aspects,  should be an essential part of an EMS and should be a requirement 
of ISO 14001. Those with this view believe the public interest out weighs 
concerns of privacy in managing one's own affairs.   Others have argued 
that while the benefits of external communication, particularly two-way 
communication,  are valuable to the organization and to its interested 
parties,  ISO 14001 should suggest, but not mandate such communication. 
 The latter position is based on the idea that an EMS is primarily an 
internal management tool, and that therefore, the organization's management 
should make informed decisions on what and to whom to communicate.

As a compromise between these views, the language in 4.4.3 was developed, 
namely: -"The organization shall consider processes for external 
communication on its significant environmental aspects and record its 
decision."  The intent of this language is not to mandate external 
communication, but to require that the organization seriously consider the 
subject of external communication; that it  consider putting a process in 
place to communicate to external interested parties regarding its 
significant environmental aspects; and that it reach and record a decision 
on this matter.  The last requirement (recording its decision) is intended 
to emphasize the importance of the matter and enable an auditor to verify 
that the subject has been addressed.

Under ISO 14001, therefore,  there is not a requirement to communicate to 
external parties ( other than to make the environmental policy available 
and to receive, record, and have a process for responding to  inquiries 
from external parties regarding environmental aspects and the  EMS). 
 However, if the organization has considered processes for external 
communication, as required in 4.4.3, and has reached a decision to have 
such a process, that process then becomes an internal requirement and must 
be followed.

In your example question, if a company has been asked by an external party 
for information on one of its significant environmental aspects,  under ISO 
14001, it must do the following:
(1) It must follow its own procedures for receiving, keeping a record of, 
and responding to that question.  (2)  If it has reached a decision to have 
a process for external communication about its significant environmental 
aspects,  it must follow that process as it applies to the inquiry when 
making its response.  If its decision regarding external communication was 
not to communicate externally on significant environmental aspects, then it 
still has an obligation to respond to the inquiry, but it's response may be 
that this information is not being made available.

The subject of external commination remains somewhat controversial and is 
likely to be discussed during the review cycle of ISO 14001, which has now 
begun.

I hope this helps to clarify the subject.  Sorry for too many words.  If I 
had had more time, as the saying goes,  I would have written a shorter 
note.

Connie Glover Ritzert   critzert@fyi.net
Meredith-EMC      environmental management consulting

- -----Original Message-----
From:	Pedro Goncalves [SMTP:catarinos@mail.telepac.pt]
Sent:	Saturday, September 04, 1999 11:14 AM
To:	iso14000@quality.org
Subject:	Info on 4.4.3.

 << File: ATT00000.html >> Dear listers,

Can anyone clarify me the last statement of clause 4.4.3. "Communication"? 
As there is not as yet a portuguese translation of the standard, i have a 
problem with this statement:

- -"The organization shall consider processes for external communication on 
its significant environmental aspects and record its decision."

Does this means that if a company is asked (externally) for some sort of 
information on one of its significant environmental aspects, it can chose 
not to provide the information and when so, it has to record why it did not 
provide it?

Thanks for any input regarding this.

Pedro Goncalves

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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 17:37:59 +0200
From: "Lennart Piper" 
Subject: SV: Info on 4.4.3.

Very good Connie, an excellent answer on a very confusing shall statement in
ISO 14001.
Hopefully will this shall statement be changed in the revision process of
ISO 14001.
Among the users of  ISO 14001 many SME´s have difficulties to understand
this shall statement.
Environmental Reporting and Communication will be discussed in a round table
seminar
during the ISO/TC 207 meeting in Stockholm 11-18 of June 2000.
The idea is to find out if  TC 207 shall start working on this subject.

Best Regards,
Lennart Piper
Swedish Industry Association
http://www.lennart.piper.net/
http://iso14001.net/epa/epa.htm



 -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Från: 	owner-iso14000@quality.org [mailto:owner-iso14000@quality.org]  För
Connie G. Ritzert
Skickat:	 den 4 september 1999 19:20
Till:	'Pedro Goncalves'; iso14000@quality.org
Ämne:	RE: Info on 4.4.3.


Pedro, et.al. :  The ISO 14001 statement from Clause 4.4.3 in your question
is confusing in any language.  It was developed as a compromise, and as is
the case with so many compromises,  the statement lacks clarity of meaning.
 It is more clear if you understand the background that led to this
statement.

In ISO TC207/SC1, the subcommittee which developed ISO 14001,  there has
been general agreement that communication with external parties is a useful
part of environmental management, but there has been disagreement on
whether such communication should be mandatory in the standard.  Some have
argued that external communication about an organization's environmental
aspects and potential impacts, as well as its efforts to manage those
aspects,  should be an essential part of an EMS and should be a requirement
of ISO 14001. Those with this view believe the public interest out weighs
concerns of privacy in managing one's own affairs.   Others have argued
that while the benefits of external communication, particularly two-way
communication,  are valuable to the organization and to its interested
parties,  ISO 14001 should suggest, but not mandate such communication.
 The latter position is based on the idea that an EMS is primarily an
internal management tool, and that therefore, the organization's management
should make informed decisions on what and to whom to communicate.

As a compromise between these views, the language in 4.4.3 was developed,
namely: -"The organization shall consider processes for external
communication on its significant environmental aspects and record its
decision."  The intent of this language is not to mandate external
communication, but to require that the organization seriously consider the
subject of external communication; that it  consider putting a process in
place to communicate to external interested parties regarding its
significant environmental aspects; and that it reach and record a decision
on this matter.  The last requirement (recording its decision) is intended
to emphasize the importance of the matter and enable an auditor to verify
that the subject has been addressed.

Under ISO 14001, therefore,  there is not a requirement to communicate to
external parties ( other than to make the environmental policy available
and to receive, record, and have a process for responding to  inquiries
from external parties regarding environmental aspects and the  EMS).
 However, if the organization has considered processes for external
communication, as required in 4.4.3, and has reached a decision to have
such a process, that process then becomes an internal requirement and must
be followed.

In your example question, if a company has been asked by an external party
for information on one of its significant environmental aspects,  under ISO
14001, it must do the following:
(1) It must follow its own procedures for receiving, keeping a record of,
and responding to that question.  (2)  If it has reached a decision to have
a process for external communication about its significant environmental
aspects,  it must follow that process as it applies to the inquiry when
making its response.  If its decision regarding external communication was
not to communicate externally on significant environmental aspects, then it
still has an obligation to respond to the inquiry, but it's response may be
that this information is not being made available.

The subject of external commination remains somewhat controversial and is
likely to be discussed during the review cycle of ISO 14001, which has now
begun.

I hope this helps to clarify the subject.  Sorry for too many words.  If I
had had more time, as the saying goes,  I would have written a shorter
note.

Connie Glover Ritzert   critzert@fyi.net
Meredith-EMC      environmental management consulting

- -----Original Message-----
From:	Pedro Goncalves [SMTP:catarinos@mail.telepac.pt]
Sent:	Saturday, September 04, 1999 11:14 AM
To:	iso14000@quality.org
Subject:	Info on 4.4.3.

 << File: ATT00000.html >> Dear listers,

Can anyone clarify me the last statement of clause 4.4.3. "Communication"?
As there is not as yet a portuguese translation of the standard, i have a
problem with this statement:

- -"The organization shall consider processes for external communication on
its significant environmental aspects and record its decision."

Does this means that if a company is asked (externally) for some sort of
information on one of its significant environmental aspects, it can chose
not to provide the information and when so, it has to record why it did not
provide it?

Thanks for any input regarding this.

Pedro Goncalves

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:22:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bill Casti (System Admin)" 
Subject: RE: Forwarded information (fwd)

NOTE: If interested in the program, contact them with the info listed
below, not me or this list. Thanks!

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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 06:48:13 -0600
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For further information about this program contact her at the address,
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:33:00 +0200
From: "Steffen L. Thomsen" 
Subject: Call for abstracts: EURO ENVIRONMENT 2000 conference

Dear Colleagues,

We are happy to announce the 2nd  environmental conference on industry
and environmental performance, EURO ENVIRONMENT 2000, to be held in
Aalborg, Denmark,18 - 20 October 2000. 

The 1st announcement is available on the Internet at 

http://www.akkc.dk/environment

The EURO ENVIRONMENT conferences provide an interdisciplinary and 
stimulating European forum in which businesses can share their visions,
present their strategies and concrete actions for a sustainable future
with politicians and key environmental organisations from all over the
world.

The conference is backed by the World Business Council for Sustainable
Development (WBCSD) whose president Mr. Björn Stigson chairs the
conference. 

The organisation behind the conference consists of representatives from
Deloitte & Touche, the EPE,  the Danish EPA, ETUC, Cerestar UK, NEMA,
the EU DG XI, Norsk Hydro, Ford Werke AG, Deutsche Telekom, the BDI, the
ERT, Storebrand, Dansk Shell, Danfoss, Grundfos, Novo Nordisk, LEGO and
the Confederation of Danish Industries (DI). 

Themes
*	"The Public and Political Agenda" - the political visions and
strategies for a sustainable development into the next millennium. 
*	"Corporate Management" - industry's visions and strategies and how to
transform these ideas into action. 
*	"Strategic Environmental Management" - environmental management as a
tool for environmental improvements and economic prosperity.
*	Technology Innovation" - the development of cleaner technologies and
how such improvements are best implemented and spread.
*	"Product Innovation and Design" - the development of more
environmentally friendly products and how they can gain an advantage in
the market. 
*	"Stakeholder Communication" - the dialogue between businesses and
their stakeholders on environmental and social performance and
responsibility.

 Who should attend
 * Corporate top management
 * Corporate environmental professionals 
 * Academics
 * Financiers, Investors and other Specialists
 * NGOs, trade union and government representatives 
 * Environmental and management consultants

 Call for abstracts
 We invite you to submit a maximum 400 word abstract in English to the 
 Conference Secretariat.

 The abstract must reflect one of the themes. Papers from industry, 
 government, NGOs and academia are highly encouraged. The conference
 committee invites contributions about visionary and/or strategic issues
 as well as practical solutions.

 The deadline for abstract submission is 15 February 2000. 

Further information
 For further information please contact the EURO ENVIRONMENT 2000 
 secretariat at:

 Aalborg Congress & Culture Centre
 Mrs. Else Herfort or Mr. Steffen L. Thomsen 
 EURO ENVIRONMENT secretariat
 P.O.Box 149
 DK-9100 Aalborg
 Phone: +45 99 35 55 55
 Fax: + 45 99 35 55 80
 E-mail: euro@akkc.dk
 http://www.akkc.dk/environment

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:36:10 +0100
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pedro_Gon=E7alves?= 
Subject: ISO 14000 Bibliography

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Dear Listers,

First of all, thanks to all the listers who answered my question =
regarding ISO 14001's "Communication". Your views were very useful. Now, =
has anyone read recently a book that you found interesting and useful in =
implementing/auditing an ISO 14001 EMS? Would you like to share it's =
references with the rest of us?

Thanks,
Pedro Gon=E7alves

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Save Timor!
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